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CAIR says "John Doe" protection won't stop them from suing John Does
Youtube ^ | 7/26/2007 | Tucker Carlson

Posted on 07/27/2007 10:18:00 AM PDT by pacelvi

Watch CAIR spokesmouth Ibrihim Hooper state matter-of-factly that nothing will stop them from suing anyone who dares report a Muslim to authorties and that the newly enacted John Doe provision doesn't change a thing legally.


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KEYWORDS: cair; flyingimams; islam; jihad; jihadinamerica; johndoe; johndoeprovision; korananimals; muhamaadsminions; muhammadsminions; waronislamism; wot
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To: pacelvi

Well, what would you do if you were sue maliciously? Come on?


101 posted on 07/27/2007 11:59:35 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: pacelvi

There is also anti-cair and jihadwatch.


102 posted on 07/27/2007 12:02:06 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: All
Sheikh delays plane over seating

hmmmm....

103 posted on 07/27/2007 12:04:49 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: pacelvi

That’s fine - the law never applies to minorities.


104 posted on 07/27/2007 12:14:47 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: sageb1
Sheikh delays plane over seating hmmmm....

I'd have offered them seating in the baggage compartment or nowhere at all.

105 posted on 07/27/2007 12:15:23 PM PDT by BearCub
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To: pacelvi

Well I hate to bring it up but, after 9/11, I seem to recall Bush asking or instructing Americans to be vigilent and to report ANY suspicious activity. I see that Chertoff has repeated said instructions. Now how the hell can one be sued for following the orders of the President of the United States???


106 posted on 07/27/2007 12:35:59 PM PDT by XenaLee
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To: Wil H

Yes, these type of “disclaimers” by CAIR, are a flacid PR stunt.

Their every other action is in sympathy with the terrorists.


107 posted on 07/27/2007 1:00:05 PM PDT by G Larry (Only strict constructionists on the Supreme Court!)
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To: puppypusher

This CAIR rep is talking about “SLAP” suits.

These are suits made to sue someone to shut them up.

If you are sued in Federal Court it is not cheep even if you are 110% not liable.

If CAIR sues a john doe, AS PART OF THE FILING FEE, they should be required to post a 15,000 dollar bond (adjusted annually) which SHALL go to the John Doe lawyer fees and is non refundable.


109 posted on 07/27/2007 1:31:47 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory
If CAIR loses these suits they should pay all attorneys fees.Also the judges hearing these suits should follow the laws and if they find the suits frivolous they should pay a fine.
110 posted on 07/27/2007 2:23:25 PM PDT by puppypusher (The world is going to the dogs.)
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To: pacelvi

CAIR = Crazy-Ass Islamic Radicals


111 posted on 07/27/2007 2:27:30 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: pacelvi
There needs to be a rider in the bill stating that anyone who tries to sue in this capacity is open to paying for the other's legal bills plus emotional expense.
112 posted on 07/27/2007 2:28:00 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: pacelvi

Damn leeches.


113 posted on 07/27/2007 2:28:34 PM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: mikeus_maximus

Carthago delenda est. (feminine singular)
delendus est (m.s.)
delendum est (n.s.)
delendae sunt (f.p.)
delendi sunt (m.p.)
delenda sunt (n.p.)

Most of the Hoopers I have known have been Jewish...


114 posted on 07/27/2007 2:41:05 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: longtermmemmory
"These are suits made to sue someone to shut them up."

I saw that Ibraham guy from CAIR being grilled by tucker carlson and he as much as admitted this. He said you have to determine intent (whether defendant acted in bad faith) through discovery. That's NOT the standard. When you file you have to allege the defendant acted in bad faith and by signing the complaint you are certifying you already have a good faith basis to believe this is true.

Every state has frivolous lawsuit statutes and Federal Courts have Rule 11 which provides for sanctions for frivolous lawsuits. Anyone sued should be able to conduct discovery first and make the plaintiff put up all the evidence they have supporting their contention the defendant acted in bad faith. If there is nothing there - case dismissed and plaintiff pays all defendant's attorney fees. And the plaintiff's attorney is liable for the fees if the plaintiff can't or won't pony up. That would end these real fast.

115 posted on 07/27/2007 2:45:55 PM PDT by joebuck
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We have passed beyond the usefulness of law. Law only functions when there is general consensus as to what it should be.

In the absence of consensus we are left with... Military coup or civil war.

116 posted on 07/27/2007 2:53:20 PM PDT by bluetone006 (Peace - or I guess war if given no other option)
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CAIR is a de facto terrorist front group. OF COURSE, the organization opposes any action designed to enhance security or protect our people against hijacking or other forms of terrorism.
117 posted on 07/27/2007 3:14:00 PM PDT by Godwin1
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To: joebuck

The problem is judges are VERY hesitant to issue rule 11 sanctions.

In fact part of the problem is that judges are literally protecting political supporters for their potential assential to the appeals courts. Just because a federal judge has tenure does not mean he does not they can not be held hostage to their own egos. So much for judicial independence of the federal courts.

I think a John Doe should get his attorney’s fees paid up front and win or lose to discourage such SLAP suits.


118 posted on 07/27/2007 4:15:39 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Diogenesis

The plaintiff will make a motion to supress any mention of 9/11 or any terrorist attack.

The judge fearing being accused of being un-politically correct will sustain the objection.


119 posted on 07/27/2007 4:17:25 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: pacelvi

I say deport them and everyone with them! Bite the hand that feeds you? GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!!!


120 posted on 07/27/2007 4:17:44 PM PDT by ronnie raygun (I'd rather be hunting with dick than driving with ted)
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