Merchants: AK-47s good for business; Critics fear powerful rifles might land in wrong hands

herald online ^ | 07/26/07 | Adam O'Daniel

[Gay State Conservative]

In Massachusetts you need a license to buy a spitball...let alone an AK.

[AngryJawa]

I'm not sure if this is the guy you're talking about, but there's a good trigger slap fix tutorial here:

http://www.gunsnet.net/Linx310/slapfix.htm

Or, of course, you can drop in a Tapco G2 trigger group for about $35. Get a retainer plate too and ditch the shepherd's crook while you're at it. 8^)

I'll hopefully be bending my receiver flat this weekend. My jig's done and I'm ready to roll.

[tumblindice]

That’s it! I don’t care what anyone says Jonah: you’re all right!
Seriously, many thanks. I added to favorites. I’ve gotta go pay some bills now.

btw, if you need American parts to meet the minimum 5, I’ve found cheaper than dirt has some for pressed receivers. And the AK expert guy on that site gives some sources as well.

[353FMG]

Still available at Texas gun show in Pasadena. Problem is that they are about $200 more expensive than other manufacturers. But I plan to spoil myself and my ego. Forgive me.

[AngryJawa]

As long as six of the sixteen "countable" parts of the rifle are US-made, you're legal.

http://www.gunco.net/forums/showthread.php?t=696

Asinine, but it's the law.

[SJSAMPLE]

If you can get a Colt for only $200 more than Bushy, RRA or the others, you’re getting a screaming deal.

Colts are known for better construction standards (read: MILSPEC) than nearly all of the non-custom brands. Parkerizing, MP inspection, etc. At those prices, they’re a bigger value.

I’ve been looking for a fourth rifle in a Colt (6520 or 6920), but they’re rare up here (Indiana). Two of my rifles use Colt uppers, which is the real working part anyway.

[SJSAMPLE]

If the receiver is made in the US, then the rifle is considered to be made in the US (unless it was re-imported), right? In that case, 922(r) parts count doesn’t matter?

[activationproducts]

Probably Bulgaria (former east bloc), not Belgium (west bloc).

[Hiddigeigei]

You are correct!

AK47
The standard military load for the 7.62x39 fires a 123 grain FMJ bullet at a muzzle velocity of 2350 fps. and 2,330 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy (ME)

30-30 American favorite for White-tail deer
The standard 150 grain factory loads from the major ammo companies have a muzzle velocity (MV) of 2,390 fps (formerly 2,400 fps), and 1,902 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy (ME).

30-06
150 grain bullet 2,910 fps muzzle velosity and 2,820 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy (ME)
180 grain bullet 2,700 fps muzzle velosity and 2,910 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy (ME)

[AngryJawa]

If the receiver is made in the US, then the rifle is considered to be made in the US (unless it was re-imported), right? In that case, 922(r) parts count doesn’t matter?

Nope, the sacred six parts are required even if the receiver is US made. The receiver merely counts as one of the parts.

Most of the guys homebuilding AK's will have a US-built receiver, trigger, disconnector, sear, pistol grip, and flash hider. Some will swap a US gas piston to retain the full Feinsteinian evil of a commie pistol grip.

Told ya' the rules were asinine. 8^)

[Mr Rogers]

Odd. A 123 grain bullet at 2350 fps has 2330 ft-lbs of energy and a 150 grain bullet moving 40 fps faster has only 1902 ft-lbs of energy.

Seems like the 30-30 should be more powerful.

[andyk]

Ragbourn said the term "assault weapon" was coined by the gun industry years ago as a marketing tool.

I was amazed to read that line. Accuse the opposition of doing what you actually did, and the opposition can be made to look foolish when trying to refute it. It's a pretty good tactic - I'm not surprised at all that an anti-gunner would stoop to using it.

[SJSAMPLE]

I thought I read somewhere that parts kits (barrels, trunions, etc>) were being restricted for import lately.
True?

[ol' hoghead]

People can buy hunting rifles that are much more powerful. A .30-30, for example.

[AngryJawa]

<1>I thought I read somewhere that parts kits (barrels, trunions, etc>) were being restricted for import lately.

AFAIK, any newly-imported kits will not be allowed to have the barrel in the kit. It'll have to be imported seperately or manufactured in the US or some such. Who knows?

The F-troop, as per typical, has not chosen to be very clear on the new laws that they make. Frankly, I really won't put it past them to completely kill off the imported milsurp market at a whim.

http://www.ak-47.us/AK-47_News.php?action=detail&g=news1150422283

Get your cheap Romy kits while you still can.

[Robe]

I live in the same town as this Yahoo and I DID CALL HIM..
He was unapologetic and dumb as a post on this issue..
When I confronted him with the fact his very first sentence was a blantent lie, he responded with , “well that’s what I was told”. When I asked him if he did any independent research like a Google search he said he had..
He’s just a young punk reporter working for a small town liberal rag..(I could almost hear the pimples erupting over the phone)
We call it here in Rock Hill.. “The Rock Hill Fish Wrap”

[Ancesthntr]

Dresner said the AK-47 he sells is a semi-automatic rifle just like the ones used by Iraqi police allied with U.S. troops in the Middle East. It looks similar to the famed Russian AK-47, a fully automatic machine gun made popular during the Cold War. [Emphasis added].

Moron contradicts himself in the first sentence.

Moron needs to know that there's a world of difference between a semi- and a full-auto AK.

Like capabilities.

Like cost - a semi- can be acquired for as little as $300, but a legal full auto (of which there are vanishingly few in this country) costs over $20,000.

Like legality - just ask the BATFE if they're the same...go ahead, tell them that you bought a full auto AK-47 from some guy in a different state last week and want to know if its legal. Then hang up and call Dominos. Unlike most cases, the government WILL get there before Dominos delivers. In fact, Dominos' deliveryman will find that he's giving the pizza to a bunch of guys with guns and body armor who just killed your cat, bashed your pregnant wife in the belly, trashed your house and is dragging you (bloodied and unconscious) to the truck across the street.

There just a LITTLE difference between a semi-auto and a full-auto AK-47. MORON!

[TChris]

I didn’t survive the inconveniences of TET ‘68 to have to listen to some dude whining about restricting my 2nd AMNENDMENT RIGHTS..Joe Biden,et.al., not withstanding

May God bless you, and thank you for your service. Those of us who have not served owe you a debt.

[AngryJawa]

I didn’t survive the inconveniences of TET ‘68 to have to listen to some dude whining about restricting my 2nd AMNENDMENT RIGHTS..Joe Biden,et.al., not withstanding

May God bless you, and thank you for your service. Those of us who have not served owe you a debt.

+1

Thanks again, Ranger.

[Ruy Dias de Bivar]

****“AK-47s should not be available for sale. There’s really no argument,” said Zach Ragbourn, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign, the nation’s leading gun-control lobby.****

In 1981 Handgun Control Inc.(Brady Campaign today), put out a statment that they ONLY wanted to control handguns. Long guns would not be affected.
I can give you a list from the 1960’s to today of lies told by these people.

“We dont want to take your guns away, we only want to register handguns. Long guns will not be affected.”—Thomas J dodd and Emanual Cellar, 1961.