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1 posted on 07/24/2007 6:28:01 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
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Stuffing prisons with black men may not be the best way to reduce crime, but stuffing the prison GRAVEYARDS with black, white, brown, and yellow executed murderers would be a good start on finding a way.

In the 1900-1910 decade when capital punishment was routinely carried out on convicted murderersshortly after the sentence was pronounced, the US murder rate was less than 1 per 100,000 population. 90 years later when first offender murderers were usually released on parole after serving just over 9 years on average, the US murder rate was approximately 8.9 per 100,000 population.

The per capita murder rate has dropped since the late 1990s, IMHO due at least partly to the enactment of shall issue CCW laws in most states, but is now beginning to show signs of a resurgence. I believe that reinstating the normal 1900 practice of capital punishment for 1st degree murderers would bring the US murder rate down to at least 1/2 of what it is now, and probably even less.

BTW, it's interesting that Washington D.C., where handguns are in effect totally banned and long guns are not allowed to be kept assembled, the per capita murder rate is approximately 35 time higher (69 vs 2.3 per 100,000) than in Switzerland where both handguns and long guns are legal for any law abiding Swiss citizen to own and keep in his/her home and vehicle, and regular target practice with military type firearms is encouraged by the state. The NYC rate is about 7 times higher than that of the Swiss, and the Chicago rate is approximate 10 times higher. In NYC, for all practical purposes the average citizen who is not either rich, somehow connected to a high ranking politician, or a celebrity can not obtain a permit to legally possess a handgun even in his/her home, and it is very difficult for him/her to legally possess a shotgun or rifle. Chicago bans all handguns that were not registered to the current owner prior to a certain date, IIRC it was some year in the mid-1970s but I could be off by a few years either way.

103 posted on 07/24/2007 8:30:46 PM PDT by epow ( "The more guns you take out of society the fewer murders you will have" Rudy--6/20/00)
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There could be several reasons why black folks are more likely to be jailed in Iowa.

1) Blacks don’t have the smarts to get away with doing certain crimes.
2) There are too many blacks in Iowa and state residents want to keep them all together making it easier to watch over them.
3) Black males don’t want to pay alimony and child support for all their girlfriends and bastard kids.
4) Drugs are easier to get while in prison.

As I said, they are an assortment of reasons why Blacks are in prison.

104 posted on 07/24/2007 8:31:00 PM PDT by antiunion person (I vote letting the general public have open season on what is under turbans)
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108 posted on 07/24/2007 8:49:07 PM PDT by struggle ((The struggle continues))
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All the Black Men criminals ought to be brought to Harold Johnson’s house.


112 posted on 07/24/2007 9:25:09 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (Just laugh at them!)
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If blacks are over-represented in prisons its because reproduction has become a hobby instead of a responsibility.
More black “youths” wind up prodcuing illegitimate children than any other ethnic group in America. Most often these individuals grow up with no family, no parental supervision, no morals, no self-respect, no respect for other people, and no goals in life. The result - they wind up commiting crimes because that is all they have been programmed to do.

And guess what? Chances are they will repeat the cylce and produce more like themselves.

If our prisons are too crowded, its because being there is preferable to being in a productive job.

As Sherman once said war is hell and by making it so, we can reduce suffering and end it quicker.

If prisons became penal colonies again instead of feel-good gardens for sociologists, we would have less convicts to house of all races.

Ask Joe Arapayo.


115 posted on 07/24/2007 10:04:09 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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Choosing to live a life of crime is no way to stay out of prison.


116 posted on 07/24/2007 10:11:26 PM PDT by Old Landmarks (No fear of man, none!)
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“Peck’uhwoood ,.. pinkass crack’uh!” [/srcsm]


118 posted on 07/24/2007 11:10:03 PM PDT by Dad yer funny (FoxNews is morphing , and not for the better ,... internal struggle? Its hard to watch)
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LOL, typical drek from the Stinky.
The prisoners should be turned loose - - in the author’s neighborhood.


119 posted on 07/24/2007 11:12:44 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Sad thing is that black on black crimes are WAY underreported. There is a cultural hesitancy (or something) to involve the police in many black communities (read ghettos), so many assaults and street robberies by blacks, on blacks go unreported.

Without those unreported crimes, a black make is 10-15 times more likely to commit a robbery with an injured victim than a white male explaining the disparity in prison populations. (Liberal crybabies, don’t make me look this up for you again). The actual multiples would be higher.

121 posted on 07/24/2007 11:23:28 PM PDT by anton
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According to Human Rights Watch, two out of every five black persons sent to state prisons nationally in 2000 were convicted of drug crimes.

He goes on to explain that these are mostly dealers, so they are not exactly victims, are they.

But then, what about the 60% who are incarcerated for crimes other than drug offenses? Guess we don't want to talk about the violent thugs, do we.

122 posted on 07/24/2007 11:24:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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It appears stuffing the jails full of the violent folks, and throwing away the key is having an affect. On the racial issue, whites could say the judicial system unfairly targets them and favors east asians who have a much lower incarceration rate. But we don't, because the reality is asians just don't commit as many violent crimes.


128 posted on 07/25/2007 1:17:00 AM PDT by ran20
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Quite to the contrary, dear author. Study after study have conclusively proven that increased incarceration decreases crime.

As obvious as it should be, prison keeps criminals from committing crimes.

132 posted on 07/25/2007 7:41:00 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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The racists among us, blatant and closeted, will be quick to attribute the imprisonment disparity to the misguided belief that African Americans are inherently prone to criminality. I've seen no valid studies supporting that view. But numerous scholars have correlated crime to conditions of poverty - and African Americans remain disproportionately poor.

This guys entire argument is that the system is inherently racist, and there is no study that Blacks are more inherently criminal, but then in the next study says blacks are disproportionately poor and studies have shown that poverty is linked to crime....

This sort of disproves his assertions that blacks are in prison because the system is racist. They are in jail because they are criminals... they are committing more of the crimes. Now to say its simply because they are poor is nonsense. As long as blacks embrace the urban failed "culture" in large numbers, continue to embrace a "culture" that worships violence, misogyny and hedonism, while abhoring education, work, achievement, monogomy, fatherhood and marriage they will continue to be committing disproportionate numbers of crimes.

I'm tired of hearing the racist card. Black women, you are the last chance your race has of recovering from a death spiral that is destroying too many. Get some self respect, keep your legs shut, and demand the men you deal with be MEN, not boys (regardless of their age). Until you ladies expect more than being someones "baby's momma" nothing will change. If he won't marry you, doesn't have a job, has no desire to improve his condition and yours, he's not worthy of your time, let alone your sexual favors.

135 posted on 07/25/2007 8:28:07 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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You are correct. There is an alternative to prisons.

Work gangs on hiways and other state properties are a good solution.


136 posted on 07/25/2007 8:31:30 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Happiness is a down sleeping bag)
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Whether you are black, white, yellow, brown, or green... as long as you allow yourself to accept narcotic welfare from the Liberal Plantation owners, then crime is always a logical side job, i.e. career choice.

It’s pathetic what narcotic welfare does to a person’s dignity. And it’s pathetic what the Democratic Party will do for a vote. Did you see them at the CNN debate the other night? They could give away free stuff fast enough!


139 posted on 07/25/2007 8:44:40 AM PDT by avacado
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The racists among us, blatant and closeted, will be quick to attribute the imprisonment disparity to the misguided belief that African Americans are inherently prone to criminality. I've seen no valid studies supporting that view.

How about simple statistics? Blacks commit 70% of violent crimes. That hasn't changed much over the last several years.

140 posted on 07/25/2007 8:47:28 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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Black males between the age of 16 and 35 are responsible for 70% of all crimes committed in this country.

Thats fact, not myth. Hence, yep, you are going to have more black males in prison.


143 posted on 07/25/2007 9:23:07 AM PDT by Badeye (You know its a kook site when they ban the word 'kook')
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"I bin to da penitentiary; I spoke to da Brothers. Thank God they got penitentiaries!"


144 posted on 07/25/2007 9:27:26 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (I never consented to live in the Camp of the Saints.)
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e-mail sent to that moron.

what a racist idiot.

148 posted on 07/25/2007 11:28:53 AM PDT by woollyone (whyquit.com ...if you think you can't quit, you're simply not informed yet.)
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Black people are not victims of society, they’re victims of their peers. -MaxMax
150 posted on 07/25/2007 6:46:48 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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