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(RON PAUL opposes) Administration Plan to Subsidize China’s Nuclear Industry
Human Events ^ | 06/06/2007 | Timothy Carney

Posted on 07/22/2007 2:02:07 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian

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To: samtheman
But RP is mouthing the talking points of Bin Laden, and RP is sticking his head in the sand rather than facing the number one issue of the century, and RP is voting with the worst block of leftists in congress. That’s above and beyond the call of incompetence. That’s incompetence bordering on, or crossing over into, treason.

Our number one problem is China. It is our number one problem because Bush and his twin brother Bill have put business interest before national security. Ron Paul offered several ways to deal with the W.O.T. that are Constitutional and effective. As well he supported going after Bin Ladden but of course you don't dare mention that.

But the real issue is nobody and I mean nobody gives Da Crowned Bush advice. Why do you think Bush placed so many Yes Men around making policy him who are Idiots! That makes Bush the biggest threat to having a dictatorship since FDR himself. Bush's own words calling the United States Constitution "A ****ed piece of paper" say it. If Ron Paul said that you would be demanding his removal from office.

41 posted on 07/22/2007 2:50:52 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Proud Partisan Constitution Supporting Conservative to which I make no apologies for nor back down)
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To: samtheman
RP is sticking his head in the sand rather than facing the number one issue of the century

Bollocks. There are MANY Conservative Issues which are MORE IMPORTANT than trying to referee an Islamic Civil War in Iraq: Abortion, Illegal Immigration, Gun Control, Domestic Socialism... Abortion kills at least one 9-11 worth of Unborn Americans EVERY DAY. Illegal Immigrants murder at least one 9-11 worth of American Citizens EVERY YEAR. And, of course, Gun Control killed 200 Million+ human beings in the last century alone, and Creeping Socialism is its economic adjunct. Every one of these classically Conservatives issues is FAR more important than a monomaniacal focus on trying to keep Shi-ite Terrorists from killing Sunni Terrorists in a god-forsaken hell-hole 7,000 miles away.

42 posted on 07/22/2007 2:51:29 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I don’t know if he agrees with them. I have no problem denouncing communists, Nazis, skin heads, or any other group of haters. If my writings were appearing in their publications, I’d make damn sure everyone knew I had nothing in common with them. Is that too much to ask? If you associate with people (as he appears to do), why would it be my responsibility to save his reputation? Surely, that’s his job. Maybe then the “coincidence” that his foreign policy is anti-Zionist wouldn’t seem like it was animated by some baser instincts. He’d just be anti-Israel because he’s a man of principle. After all, it’s not in the constitution that we’ll help Israel.


43 posted on 07/22/2007 2:53:06 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: BlackbirdSST
We tend to want to play Russian Roulette with no empty chambers, WTF!? Blackbird.

Yeah, next time I'm about to get mugged, I'll just follow the Bush Plan --- I'll slit my own throat, and hand them my wallet.

44 posted on 07/22/2007 2:53:08 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: elhombrelibre
I have no problem denouncing communists, Nazis, skin heads, or any other group of haters. If my writings were appearing in their publications, I’d make damn sure everyone knew I had nothing in common with them. Is that too much to ask?

I see no reason to indulge them with the publicity. That would be counterproductive, IMHO.

45 posted on 07/22/2007 2:54:00 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
trying to keep Shi-ite Terrorists from killing Sunni Terrorists in a god-forsaken hell-hole 7,000 miles away
That's exactly what I mean when I say sticking your head in the sand. You just proved my point completely.

They want to kill you. And me. And your family. And mine.

Wake up. Smell the Turkish Coffee. It's time to fight or die.

46 posted on 07/22/2007 2:54:23 PM PDT by samtheman
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To: samtheman
We have been fighting Communist forever and should be added to your list. Communist and Jihads are on equal footing in my book. Bush needs to stand up to all Communist Nations.

Bush thinks China and Mexico are our friends.

47 posted on 07/22/2007 2:55:23 PM PDT by Orange1998 (4 Real)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

5000 jobs in PA.
5 Billion of my tax dollars.
1 nuclear reactor in China.

Wouldn’t it just be easier to give the 5 billion dollars to the 5000 unemployed in Penn?

I don’t think they would mind taking the money and not having to work.


48 posted on 07/22/2007 2:56:30 PM PDT by live+let_live ("God is a mathematician with an eye for art.")
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

He’s regularly published in their paper, yet he should ignore them. That sounds convenient now that he is on the national stage.


49 posted on 07/22/2007 2:58:02 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Westinghouse employee here (although I’m in services, not new plants).

A couple of things to note.

1. The discussion revolves around a LOAN, not a gift. I’m not entirely familiar with the finances, but I do believe that it mainly serves as a vehicle to make payments from the communists to an American firm. So all of the Freepers who are clever with the math, please correct your statements that this would be like a LOAN of $1M to 5000 Americans.

2. The article is correct in that a large fraction of the work will be farmed out to South Korea. That’s because the United States lost all capabilities to make large forgings after orders of nuke plants died after Three Mile Island. The United States simply doesn’t have the capability to make the larger components.

3. Although I’m not real thrilled that we’re building nukes for a communist country, the article is correct in that it was going to happen anyway. In any case, the big benefit for this contract with the Chinese is that it will allow Westinghouse to staff-up in anticipation of a large number of domestic nuke plant orders. We’ll build them plants that are significantly safer than what the Russians would have built...and by the time we’re done, the next generation of plants will be available.

4. The article implies that we’re giving vital military knowledge away. The Chinese already have the bomb. The deal has been reviewed by the department of defense, and they didn’t have a problem with it.


50 posted on 07/22/2007 3:03:45 PM PDT by kidd
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To: elhombrelibre; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Extremely Extreme Extremist
He’s regularly published in their paper, yet he should ignore them. That sounds convenient now that he is on the national stage.

I take it this is your first week out since graduating from Attack Dog School? You didn't get your money's worth. Lame. Blackbird.

51 posted on 07/22/2007 3:04:48 PM PDT by BlackbirdSST (I'm dug in, giving no more ground to the rino stampede. BB)
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To: BlackbirdSST
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Free_Press

Read and then comment please.

52 posted on 07/22/2007 3:07:22 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: BlackbirdSST
Duke is one of the few recognizable faces left on the racist right in the United States, which has seen some of its most notorious leaders die or be incarcerated in the last few years. Joining Duke at the conference were numerous white supremacist leaders, including Kevin Strom from the neo-Nazi National Vanguard; Willis Carto, publisher of the anti-Semitic publications, American Free Press Mr. Ron Paul writes for a publication that is published by Willis Carto who is an associate of David Duke's. Besides calling me names, what do you have to say about that?
53 posted on 07/22/2007 3:10:52 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: gb63

It is not the government’s place top do either.


54 posted on 07/22/2007 3:11:16 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: Abcdefg

top do should have been “to do”


55 posted on 07/22/2007 3:11:48 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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To: elhombrelibre

“Ron Paul’s friends at American Free Press.......”
Paul does not copyright his writings and they can be published by anyone. He does not write “for” them.


56 posted on 07/22/2007 3:12:19 PM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis "Ya gotta saddle up your boys; Ya gotta draw a hard line")
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To: OrthodoxPresbyterian

Oh, it’s a civil war. I see...


57 posted on 07/22/2007 3:14:17 PM PDT by sofaman ("There will only be peace in Israel when the Arabs love their children more than they hate the Jews")
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To: BlackbirdSST
Read this on the Iran Holocaust denial conference. An associate of Fredrick Toben, Richard Krege claims that his investigation with ground-penetrating radar showed that thousands of Jews were not killed at the notorious Treblinka concentration camp. He spoke at the 2006 Holocaust denial conference sponsored by the U.S.-based anti-Semitic publications, American Free Press and The Barnes Review. He also traveled to Iran in late 2005, where he promoted Holocaust denial at three universities. Again, American Free Press is where Ron Paul’s thoughts frequently appear. Why?
58 posted on 07/22/2007 3:14:36 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Who will Liberals shift the blame to if their retreat from Iraq turns into a disaster?)
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To: kidd; cva66snipe
1. The discussion revolves around a LOAN, not a gift. I’m not entirely familiar with the finances, but I do believe that it mainly serves as a vehicle to make payments from the communists to an American firm.

Actually, as the article notes, it's a Japanese-owned firm.

So, basically, we're subsidizing the transfer of nuclear technology to China, so that the same Japanese Company which sold our submarine-propulsion technology to Soviet Russia can make big profits.

Brilliant.

59 posted on 07/22/2007 3:15:59 PM PDT by OrthodoxPresbyterian (Please Ping or FReepMail me to be added to the Great Ron Paul Ping List)
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To: elhombrelibre
The way I heard it is that Ron Paul puts out his less government, more freedom message, free of copyright, and let's anyone reprint it. He has no control over whether Carto or anyone else publishes it. He just wants the message to get out.

Are you absolutely sure Ron Paul "writes for" Carto's publication? Or is that from something you read here posted by a Paul hater?

60 posted on 07/22/2007 3:16:09 PM PDT by Abcdefg
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