Posted on 07/22/2007 4:36:02 AM PDT by GFritsch
14 yers ago today, on July 20, 1993, the body of Vincent Walker Foster, Jr. was found in a Virginia park, next to a civil war cannon, with an unidentified revolver lodged in the right hand. Vincent Foster died of a small-caliber gunshot wound to his head.
Vince Foster was not only deputy White House counsel but also the personal attorney to Bill and Hillary Clinton. On the night of Foster’s death, top Clinton aides made a frantic effort to enter and remove documents from his West Wing office. In the days that followed, federal investigators were stymied in their investigation of Foster’s office and strange death.
The following happened within weeks of his death. Vince Foster finally files the missing Whitewater tax returns. On July 19, FBI director William Sessions is fired. Clinton personally orders him by phone to turn in his FBI property and leave headquarters.
That evening, Clinton security aide Jerry Parks' wife Jane says she overhears a heated telephone conversation with Vince Foster in which her husband says, "You can't give Hillary those files, they've got my name all over them."
On July 20, Clinton names Louis Freeh as Sessions' successor.
That same day, the FBI raids David Hale's Little Rock office and seizes documents including those relating to Capital-Management.
Just hours after the search warrant authorizing the raid is signed by a federal magistrate in Little Rock, Vince Foster apparently drives to Ft. Marcy Park.
Foster was found dead of an apparent gunshot wound to the head in Ft. Marcy Park. His unoccupied car, a 1989 Honda, was found in the park's parking lot. Several witnesses - before and after the arrival of the park police - have claimed they saw a briefcase in Foster's car.
A so-called suicide note was found in an office briefcase that had been searched and found to be empty after Foster’s death. The note was torn into 27 pieces. Yet an FBI examination found no trace of Foster’s fingerprints on the note and three independent handwriting experts determined that Foster's suicide note, was a forgery.
The Raid of Vince Foster’s Office While the U.S. Park Police studied the body, Foster's office at the White House was being looted.
Secret Service agent Henry O' Neill watched as Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret Williams, carried boxes of papers out of Vincent Foster's office before the Park Police showed up to seal it, yet the official identification of Vincent Foster's body by Craig Livingstone did not take place until 10PM!
Another Secret Serviceman saw Craig Livingston remove items from Vincent Foster's office in violation of the official seal. Witnesses also saw Bernard Nussbaum in Foster's office as well. Three witnesses noted that Patsy Thomason, director of the White House's Office of Administration, was desperate to find the combination to Vincent Foster's safe. Ms. Thomason finally opened the safe, apparently with the help of a special "MIG" technical team signed into the White House in the late hours. Two envelopes reported to be in the safe by Foster's secretary Deborah Gorham, addressed to Janet Reno and to William Kennedy III, were never seen again. When asked the next day regarding rumors of the safe opening, Mack McLarty told reporters Foster's office did not even have a safe, a claim immediately shot down by former occupants of that office.
The next day, when the Park Police arrived for the official search of Vincent Foster's office, they were shocked to learn that Nussbaum, Thomason and Williams had entered the office. Conflicts channeled through Janet Reno's Department of Justice resulted in the Park Police merely sitting outside Foster's office while Bernard Nussbaum continued his own search of Foster's office. During this search, he opened and upended Vincent Foster's briefcase, showing it to be empty. Three days later, it would be claimed that this same briefcase was where the torn up suicide note was discovered.
The boxes of documents removed from Foster's office by Hillary Clinton's chief of staff, Margaret Williams, were taken to the private residence area of the White House! Eventually, only 54 pages emerged.
One set of billing records, under subpoena for two years, and thought to have originated in Foster's office, turned up unexpectedly in the private quarters of the White House, with Hillary's fingerprints on them.
So, who ordered the office looting?
Bill Clinton was unavailable, being on camera with Larry King. But Hillary Clinton, who had only the day before diverted her planned return to Washington D.C. to Little Rock, was on the phone from Little Rock to someone at the White House in the moments before the looting took place.
The death of Vince Foster is very unsettling. There is an amazing amount of inconsistent information surrounding his death, the investigation and the autopsy. And, of course, his close relationship with Hillary was intriguing. Many books have claimed that the two were lovers for several years.
To date, several unanswered questions still remain. What did the White House know and when did they know it? Another question: If Foster was not identified as a White House official until at least an hour and a half after police arrived, why were police officers associated with an elite federal unit on the scene within 45 minutes? Evidence suggests that White House officials were informed of Foster's death, at least an hour before they claim to have been initially notified.
The FBI never officially investigated the case but simply signed off on the Park Police "probe." The bureau had little choice.
Later, Robert Fiske, selected by Clinton’s counsel Bernie Nussbaum and Janet Reno, quickly confirmed the Park Police probe as a suicide. Yet, no fewer than three of the paramedics on the scene indicated in reports or testimony that the crime scene was consistent with a murder scene, not a suicide.
? A careful FBI microscopic investigation of Foster’s shoes found not a trace of soil or grass stains on them, though he supposedly walked several hundred yards through wooded Fort Marcy Park to where his body was found. [Years later, Starr’s investigation found plenty of soil and grass stains. Rodriguez charged that the shoes were tampered with to produce such "evidence."]
? Foster was found with little blood around his body – and despite claims that he fired the gun into his mouth, practically no blood was found on the front of his shirt.
? Foster was found with a 1913 revolver no one in his family could claim, with two serial numbers, made from the parts of three or more guns. None of Foster’s fingerprints were found on the gun. The bullet that supposedly killed Foster was never found, despite intensive searches.
? The first witness to find the body insisted that there had been no gun near the body. The memory in Foster's pager had been erased. Critical evidence began to vanish. Many witnesses were harassed. Others were simply ignored. There were even suggestions that the body had been moved, and a Secret Service memo surfaced which reported that Foster's body had been found in his car! The official reports were self-contradictory.
? All of the X-rays taken during the autopsy are missing. Complete crime scene photos don’t exist. The Park Police said all the photos were "accidentally" overexposed. A series of close-up Polaroids, which Favish is suing for, remain.
? A briefcase in the car of Vincent Foster was removed after U.S. Park Police arrived at his death scene. The briefcase, which may have carried important documents, was never listed on official evidence reports compiled by park police who conducted the first investigation into the White House deputy counsel's death.
Hillary Clinton was trying to gain leverage over her husband, possibly in relation to future divorce proceedings. It is possible Mrs. Clinton wanted to get to the bottom of persistent rumours about her husband's philandering before subjecting herself and her daughter to the media glare of a presidential campaign. At the time, Mrs Clinton and Vince Foster were partners at the Rose Law firm.
Did Hillary Clinton have an affair with Little Rock lawyer Vincent Foster? According to retired Arkansas State Trooper Larry Patterson, "There is no doubt in my mind that there was a long, ongoing sexual relationship between Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster."
Patterson, who guarded the Clintons for more than six years, made the new disclosures on the audiotape set "More than Sex: The Secrets of Bill and Hillary Clinton Revealed"
Patterson said that on one occasion, at a birthday party for Hillary Clinton, he saw Foster touch Hillary in private areas of the body twice. Patterson said his belief about Hillary and Vince was formed after years of observation during the frequent meetings between the two, when Bill was out of town, and the stories of other troopers.
Patterson gives eyewitness details of several occasions upon which he saw Vince and Hillary in compromising situations.
On the day of Vince Foster’s death, Patterson said he learned about the death before the Park Police even found Foster’s body and hours before the White House said they were informed. Patterson’s information, corroborated by another trooper, exposes a cover-up bigger than Watergate.
A case arose from an overall conspiracy to obstruct justice in connection with federal investigations into the death of deputy White House counsel Vincent W. Foster.
Patrick Knowlton was in Ft. Marcy Park the afternoon that Vincent Foster died. What Knowlton saw and what happened to him afterwards is one of the most disturbing stories of the whole Clinton saga. You can read the testimony here
Miguel Rodriguez was a prosecutor on the staff of Kenneth Starr. His attempts to uncover the truth in the Vincent Foster death case were repeatedly foiled, and he was the subject of planted stories undermining his credibility and implying that he was unstable. Rodriguez eventually resigned.
After learning of Fosters death, Jane Parks, the wife of Jerry Parks claims that her husband said, "I'm a dead man". Parks had collected detailed data on Clinton's sexual escapades, including pictures and dates. His wife claims federal agents subsequently removed his files and computer, and that Bill Clinton still owed him $81,000.
(Note. Two months later, Jerry Parks is found murdered gangland-style )
A team of independent private investigators could still open this case and tell the American people the truth about this murder. Not so strange that Tubba and Bubba don’t want it solved along with their willing conspirators. In fact, there’s a long list of “dead” associates of the Clintoons that seem rather coincidental.
I suspect the two may have been seeing each other even when V was alive. Recall that Wifey and V lived apart - he in DC and she in LR - from the start of the administration in Jan. until the youngest kid finished HS in June. That's close to five months. I believe that they weren't getting along too well before then anyway.
BTW, as I previously posted: for this and quite a number of other reasons, Wifey is a hot suspect in the homicide plot!
Calling Mark Fuhrman........
(2) What "fractures in the back of the skull"? If there were such a thing, the site behind the head would be a bloody-brainy mess. And where is the "photographic evidence" that the Starr Report refers to? You could document "fractures in the back of the skull" by X-ray very easily, but whatever X-rays were taken at autopsy somehow disappeared. How did that happen if they show what the government is saying they show: fractures in the back of the skull?
(3) "Proven or wishful thinking?" As I told you, the autopsy report isn't worth a bowl of spit. It's merely a generic description of a gun in the mouth suicide, and it's inconsistent with a lot of the evidence. Take a look at post # 235 by mc5cents and you'll get an idea of Dr. Beyer's background.
Please support your claims that it had two serial numbers on it. Why would his father have one? I don’t know, why would someone who was out to kill him use one? In other words, suppose your story is correct. What does it signify? I have a difficult time dealing with people with illogical minds.
How do you know how much blood was present? Have you seen the ctime seen pictures and/or autopsy photos?
Please support your claim. Please read the interview with his wife. Oh wait, let me guess, she was in on it too? I’ve really never understood those who come up with the way they want things to be and then make the facts fit it rather than using logic and good common sense. Probably because people who believe conspiracy theories lack a great deal of both.
According to another website: There were 2 different serial numbers stamped on the pieces/parts indicating that originally serial #356555 was purchased on 09-14-13 at the Seattle Hardware Co., Seattle, WA., and serial #355055 was purchased on 12-29-13 at Gus Hasich Co., Indianapolis, IN.
Ok, so his father bought it like this or had it repaired at one point. Or, does this somehow mean that it was a hit against him? If so, in your mind a hit killing would somehow find it advantageous to build the murder weapon from two old weapons? For what purpose? Wouldn’t it make more sense to make the gun as plain jane as possible? There’s that word again, sense!
Thanks for the confirmation. All this is very interesting and I hope one day to know the truth.
Sean covered this on Hannity’s America Sunday night.
Please read the books by Ruddy (The Strange Death of Vincent Foster) and Evans-Pritchard (The Secret Life of Bill Clinton) for starters. They have interviewed EMTs and rescue personnel who were at the scene at FMP, plus the witness who first chanced upon the body before the Fire and Rescue teams arrived. There is unanimous agreement that there that there was very little if any blood in the vicinity of the body. Plus, it was noted that the body was a neat straight spine position, not the position that a body maintains after a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. One of the EMTs coded it as a homicide in his report.
As for "crime scene" photos (it really wasn't a true crime scene - since the victim was killed elsewhere - but rather a body-dumping scene), I believe there are a few that were released to attorney and fellow FReeper Allan Favish when he litigated to get them under the Freedom of Information Act. But ten or so of those photos were withheld from Favish by the government.
All Hildebeast has to do to mesmerize the masses is show some of that Commie Cleavage.
I’ve been reading up on it, including Favish’s site. Interesting stuff. Not sure what to make of it, but having a gun made from two other guns doesn’t really mean anything either way to me.
Where are the crime scene photos that were released? I didn’t see any, but I did read a judge’s order to grant access to a few of them.
Not sure what to make of the silver/black handgun. It was clear from reading that there were several handguns, so she could have been thinking of the silver one and not thinking or recognizing the black one. One of the sites made a big deal about the fact that they asked to see his other guns when they got to his house. Sounds like a good, thorough investigation to me.
There's a very good probability that she was! One important piece of evidence: on the day before the death, the victim gave his personal secretary two envelopes to mail from the WH which his wife gave him before leaving home. One contained a check for a premium to a life insurance company that kept his policy intact. That payment enabled Wifey to collect handsomely after the death. Another envelope contained legal papers to the victim's mother which signed over her oil leases to Vince. Upon V's death, those oil leases wound up in the possession of Wifey. Now think about that. Were both of those mailings at precisely that time just fortuitous for Wifey? Or was she engaging in some "financial planning"?
In general, please note that it is not illogical to believe in a conspiracy theory in cases such as this where a conspiracy is the only way to explain the evidence.
The fact that the gun found in the hand dates from 1913 is significant to the extent that such a gun would be useful to a perp who wanted to drop it there to fake a suicide. The reason is that it’s so darn old that it’s just about impossible to trace the ownership.
Personally, I think Hillary’s huge ego would prevent her from accepting the V.P. position. She has been planning this for so long that it would be a devastating blow. Don’t forget, she’s a socio-path. More then likely, Obama would be in trouble just before he got the nomination. His plane would probably crash on the way to accepting the nomination. I really don’t think there is anyway Obama could take the nomination from Hillary, too many of the big players have been planning this for too long.
By the way, did you notice how Ophra recently endorsed Obama? It is very unusual for her to get into politics. Even though I think Ophra going a bit off the deep end playing the Diva, I believe in her heart of hearts she is a decent woman deep down. Personally, I believe the reason why she got behind Obama is not because he is black, no, I think it is because she senses that there is something terribly wrong with Hillary, but she can’t come out and say it because too much of her success depends on Hollywood’s liberals.
What do you recommend that we Republicans do to get our “collective head out of our ass” in order to defeat the mob-family headed by Hillary? I’m only asking this question because you said that’s what we need to do, so do you have any suggestions how we could do that?
Regarding Hillary being the one responsible for what happened at Waco, don’t forget that she keeps bragging that if elected, her feet will hit the floor running. I don’t take that as a promise, to me it’s a threat. Especially after what happened to Vince Foster.
You mentioned that we need God’s help if these two ever get back into office? I’ve got news for you, the first presidency of the Clinton’s wasn’t nothin, it was just a set up for what’s coming next. We don’t even have a clue what will happen under her presidency, because Bill’s term was nothing but a fraud, nothing but an attempt to lay the ground work so that it would be POSSIBLE for Hillary to be President. Truth be known, that’s all Bill’s presidency was. So what does this say about Hillary’s presidency? Be afriad, be VERY AFRAID!!!!
Dead Fund Raisers:
C. Victor Raiser II, National Finance Co-Chairman for Clinton for President Campaign. Montgomery Raiser, son of C. Victor Raiser: both men died July 30, 1992 in a private plan crash in Alaska en route to a fishing expedition. No cause was ever determined. Five others not connected to Clinton died with them. Paul Tully, Democratic National Committee Political Director. Died September 24, 1992. Found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock, Arkansas of unknown causes. No autopsy allowed. Ed Willey, Real Estate Attorney, Clinton Fund Raiser. Died November 30, 1993 of a gunshot wound to the head. Body found deep in the woods in Virginia. Ruled a suicide. No note was found nor motive ever determined. THE Kathleen Willey of 60 Minutes Deception fame- her husband. Hershell Friday. Attorney and Clinton fund raiser, dead March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded. No known cause ever determined.
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