Posted on 07/20/2007 6:17:46 PM PDT by Baladas
Well said!!! Kudos.
You are welcome.
I agree with you, we need to secure our borders, or all the efforts overseas can be rendered moot.
I think Grunthor has a pretty decent and clear start to cleaning up this fiasco. You have to start somewhere, so why not with those criminals already in our custody?
Next, build a fense/wall/barrier and increase the border patrol.
Then demand proper SS information for working status/health care/etc.
When you cut the advantages out for the illegals, and you deport those caught in criminal activities, the flow will subside on it’s own.
You wont need to send huge convoys of buses to farms/factories/etc. to round up illegals. Just like in the military, if you go AWOL, they don’t waste alot of time/money/resources coming after you. They just flag your SS#. At some point you’ll get a traffic ticket or something, and Whamo, youre caught.
Sincerely
BTTT
So how much should the “greedy” farmer pay his labor?? $20/hr? $40/hr or $100/hr before he is no longer a dirty stinking greedy capitalist in your book??
Now after you bankrupt all those dirty farmers, who you going to get to raise your crops?? Rush Limbaugh? Laura Ingrahrm or FReepers, since they know everything there is about farming and everything else for that matter.
Yeah Central Planning would work great if it were only run by “conservatives”.
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“For some of our so-called leaders in Washington, doing the right thing only exists as far as they can get their reelection pockets lined.”
Many of them need to go the way of the Dodo. I have never seen the populace this angry, most at their own political partys. You see how many are miffed with the Republicans, it doesn’t get any better for the Democrats, their base is livid with them as well.
Wow, someone with some common sense.
Problem here is, your solution will be labeled Amnesty and away they go.
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“So how many businesses and industries are you willing to bankrupt to get rid of the Mexicans??”
As many as it takes.
“You guys sound like libs with your anti-business, minimum wage nonsense.”
Libs want the borders secured and the laws enforced? Who knew?
“Your hatred of Illegal Immigrants/Mexicans trumps all.”
I never mentioned anything about mexicans. You are over the line you race-baiting troll.
“If I can’t run a business without breaking the law then I don’t deserve to be in that business, nobody does. Success in business is not a right.”
Exactly.
Read “Compromised” by Terry Reed.
Read “Compromised” by Terry Reed.
“Yeah Central Planning would work great if it were only run by “conservatives”.”
YEAH! SUPPORT the illegal aliens and the rape of this nation or you are a no good COMMIE!
(sarcasm alert, sarcasm alert, if this had been actual sarcasm you would have been notified what to do in such an emergency. We now return you to your scheduled freeping already in progress)
So how much should these evil Farmers be paying these poor helpless Slaves?? 50K per year? Is that enough to clear your conscious? What is a fair minimum wage in your “conservative” book for these Mexicans.
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Complete and total.
“So how much should these evil Farmers be paying these poor helpless Slaves??”
Shouldn’t be paying them anything, they are illegally here. The illegals should go home.
“What is a fair minimum wage in your “conservative” book for these Mexicans.”
Again, one of us keeps bringing an ethnicity/race/nationality into this conversation. I hope those reading your diatribe recognize that that person is you.
Yes, lets assume a worker picks 60 heads of lettuce in an hour (far less than actual, but stay with me here). We pay illegal immigrants, what, $3.00 and hour? So, the cost to pick lettuce is about 5 cents a piece (5 cents times 60 = $3.00)
If we no longer had illegals to pick lettuce, lets assume we had to pay someone $20 an hour. The cost of picking lettuce would now be about 33 cents per head. So paying $20 an hour for lettuce picking would add a whopping 28 cents to the cost of a head of lettuce. Big frickin deal.
I googled 12 murdered daily by illegal aliens and just went with the very first site pulled up; anyone who wants to look further into the methodology of how those figures were determined, etc-have at it.
Of course there is no racism in this issue, none. Just because 90% of illegals are Mexican there is no reason to mention they are Mexicans. That would be race baiting.
And we know that everybody loves Mexicans. You are just wanting to do what’s best for them. Drag them out of their homes and jobs, round them up and herd them back to Mexico, out of love. You just hate President Bush for not doing exactly that, as if he could.
Better yet, Bankrupt every business that hires them and if it starts a famine, so what you got rid of the Mexicans. Out of love.
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I won’t avoid the crime issue. Yes they commit crimes, just like inner city poor commit crimes. You going to outlaw poverty?
Now if you could document the Mexicans like President Bush wants you could separate the criminals from the hard workers. That would be a step in the right direction, however your side won’t allow that since that would be labeled “shamnesty”.
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I have personally known meat packers who gladly worked in plants have their jobs taken away and given to illegal workers because the employer could pay them less. What would you call that? I would call it greed and lawlessness and just plain wrong.
I know that we have historically had migrant farmworkers and I am not opposed to legal, controlled immigration. I am outraged, however, by the invasion of our country and by the way it is destroying our culture. For what? For cheap labor. So, taxpayers foot the bill for educating their children, public entitlements for their families, health care costs that have destroyed ERs nationwide, lawlessness, instate tuition for THEM but not my children... and the list goes on. Just about every aspect of our society has suffered because of this uncontrolled influx of foreigners and their "demands" for their "rights."
Do these poor people deserve better than they have in Mexico? Absolutely. But, the solution to their problem lies in making their own country better - not in destroying ours. By all means, send them aid and a helping hand - but to allow an uncontrolled invasion of our country for any reason is irresponsible in the extreme.
The slavers said that there was no way they could operate their plantations without their slaves so, to keep that from being a problem, the Yankees just burned their plantations to ground after they freed the slaves. Gotta match?
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