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OBAMA: PREVENTING GENOCIDE NOT GOOD ENOUGH REASON TO STAY IN IRAQ
Breitbart ^ | 7/20/07 | AP

Posted on 07/20/2007 10:47:10 AM PDT by torchthemummy

SUNAPEE,NH (AP)-Democrat presidential hopeful Barack Obama said Thursday that the United States cannot use it's military to solve humanitarian problems and that preventing a potential genocide in Iraq isn't a good enough reason to keep US forces there.

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To: torchthemummy

Okay. A little research. O’Reilly has quoted a Harvard author as saying that Obama wants military intervention in Darfur, and has taken the position that we should have intervened in Rwanda.

But, Obama wants to allow genocide in Iraq. What’s the difference? Could it be the race of the victims? The victims are black in Darfur and Rwanda, but Arab in Iraq. Is Obama a racist? He belongs to a church with racist tenets.


41 posted on 07/20/2007 11:14:23 AM PDT by lady lawyer
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To: torchthemummy
obammy wants people to die?
well, he is in the right party for that.
42 posted on 07/20/2007 11:14:30 AM PDT by From One - Many (Trust the Old Media At Your Own Risk)
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To: KJC1
the reasons for going into Iraq included liberation and giving them a shot at democracy.

Ah yes Wilsonian adventurism, the battle cry of interventionists everywhere. Those reasons shouldn't have been included as it's none of our business to liberate anyone from their own internal government

43 posted on 07/20/2007 11:15:56 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: torchthemummy

He really didn’t say that... Read his comments. I don’t like his views, but this is not correct.


44 posted on 07/20/2007 11:17:31 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: From One - Many

If Barack was a White Republican he would be the butt of jokes about how he’s no Dan Quayle.


45 posted on 07/20/2007 11:17:40 AM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Greg F
I know what you are saying in the “isolationist left” is a good thing . . . but its bogus . . . same as the fiscally responsible left is also bogus. The left opposes only military action in our interests. They continue to want to globalize, give up sovereignty, fund more international aid, sign Kyoto and the law of the sea treaties, etc.

You have a point.

46 posted on 07/20/2007 11:17:53 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: billbears

You should preface that with “in my opinion.”


47 posted on 07/20/2007 11:18:18 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: torchthemummy
Ralph Peters slams Obama Boy in his latest article:

(snip) In 2001, al Qaeda had a country of its own. Today, it survives in isolated compounds. And guess which "veteran warrior" wants to go get them?

Sen. Barack Obama. Far too important to ever serve in the military himself, Obama thinks we should invade Pakistan.

Go for it, Big Guy. Of course, we'll have to reintroduce the draft to find enough troops. And we'll need to kill, at a minimum, a few hundred thousand tribesmen and their families. We'll need to occupy the miserable place indefinitely.

Oh, and Pakistan's a nuclear power already teetering on the edge of chaos.

Barack Obama, strategist and military expert. Who knew?

Not that the problem in Pakistan's Federally Administered Tribal Areas isn't serious. We should be hitting high-value targets there from the air and employing special operations forces - despite the consequences for the Musharraf government. (Or maybe we could just send in Obama Girl? She'd look hot in a burqa.)

Field Marshall Obama's fire-for-effect belligerence underscores the sad truth that the Dems are perfectly willing to squander the lives of our troops. They just don't want any casualties that might lead to positive results before the 2008 election. (snip)

TWISTING INTEL: DEMS DISTORT TERROR REPORT
48 posted on 07/20/2007 11:21:59 AM PDT by Miss Didi ("Good heavens, woman, this is a war not a garden party!" Dr. Meade, Gone with the Wind)
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To: torchthemummy

Related....

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2007/07/darfur-yes-iraq-no.html


49 posted on 07/20/2007 11:22:47 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: KJC1
You should preface that with “in my opinion.”

Why? Your argument is the nonsense that kicked off US involvement in the war to end all wars and flies in the face of the advice of the Framers. It's not my fault if Republicans have picked it up to run with trying to spin it into a conservative mantra at the same time.

Defense, yes. Wilsonian adventurism and 'sharing democracy', no.

50 posted on 07/20/2007 11:23:08 AM PDT by billbears (Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. --Santayana)
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To: KJC1
@sshole

Name calling is the last resort of those that have no argument.

51 posted on 07/20/2007 11:32:01 AM PDT by TexasRepublic (Afghan protest - "Death to Dog Washers!")
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To: torchthemummy
It’s been a career ending week for Osama.
52 posted on 07/20/2007 11:34:47 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: torchthemummy
"The Bush administration has helped reduce suffering in Darfur, but the situation is dangerously adrift. And when the history of this tragedy is written, nobody will remember how many times officials visited the region or how much humanitarian aid was delivered. They will only remember the death toll."

Policy Adrift on Darfur

Barack Obama and Sam Brownback
December 27, 2005;

53 posted on 07/20/2007 11:40:04 AM PDT by Bommer (Global Warming: The only warming phenomena that occurs in the Summer and ends in the Winter!)
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To: torchthemummy
Not only do I strongly believe this guy’s remarks could be the downfall of his campaign and a noose to hand Dems with given the utter hypocrisy and callousness, he’s also a spinning liar.

“Nobody is proposing we leave precipitously.” This is a flat out lie. Close to if not more than half his party is calling for a full withdrawal. As for the rest, they are calling for partial withdrawal in 120 days, though they refuse to specify how many exactly will be pulled.

“We would be deploying unilaterally and occupying the Sudan, which we haven’t done. Those of us who care about Darfur don’t think it would be a good idea,” he said. How much can you care about a place and people if you’re willing to sit back and watch them die. I suppose those who sat on the sidelines during WWII really cared about the millions of Jews et al who were killed.

Imagine a friend saying that, I really care about you getting slaughtered right now, but I’m not going to do anything about it. With “friends” like Dems....

The greater risk is staying in Iraq, Obama said...”It is my assessment that those risks are even greater if we continue to occupy Iraq and serve as a magnet for not only terrorist activity but also irresponsible behavior by Iraqi factions,” he said. Thanks General know-nothing, but the people who are actually over there and intelligence estimates say otherwise. Say, how did that Somalia withdrawal serve us?

“We have not lost a military battle in Iraq.” At least he gets that. He should tell his buddies like “the war is lost” Reidtard

“Obama said the answer to Iraq—and other civil conflicts—lies in diplomacy.” YEAH! Another Nev Chamberlain candidate. Thank God diplomacy solved the holocaust! Boy did Clinton’s diplomacy thwart that pesky Bosnia conflict. Man, I love how diplomacy fixed Haiti, no boots on the ground there in the 1990s (ooops).

“When you have civil conflict like this, military efforts and protective forces can play an important role, especially if they’re under an international mandate as opposed to simply a U.S. mandate” Umm, the US is under UN mandate in Iraq clueless.

“you can’t solve the underlying problem at the end of a barrel of a gun,” he said. “There’s got to be a deliberate and constant diplomatic effort to get the various factions to recognize that they are better off arriving at a peaceful resolution of their conflicts.” 1) this shows he does not understand this people 2) it shows he’s ignored the history of the Israel-”Palestinian” conflict, and 3) it shows he doesn’t get this simple fact - these people will come to this realization only after an a** kicking, not a conversation over tea.

“The first thing I’d support is his [OBL’s] capture, which is something this administration has proved incapable of achieving,” Thankfully the last administration did such a better job of that! Oooops!

“Certainly, what we shouldn’t do is engage in hypocrisy....Romney himself once indicated support for similar programs that Obama supports” Ummm, the questionnaire didn’t say five year olds, it’s said AGE APPROPRIATE.

Typical lib spinning - lie, distort, ignore historical precedent, and blur the issue.

54 posted on 07/20/2007 11:44:17 AM PDT by enough_idiocy
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To: Bommer
"Do you have any idea what it feels like to be a dimwitted megalomaniac?"


55 posted on 07/20/2007 11:45:37 AM PDT by Vision ("Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord, whose confidence is in him." Jeremiah 17:7)
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To: torchthemummy

My response to B. Hussein Obama - if “genocide is not good enough to stay in Iraq, it isn’t good enough reason to GO to Darfur. Don’t bring it up anymore, and find some other way to get the black vote.”


56 posted on 07/20/2007 11:46:15 AM PDT by Christian4Bush ("Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech." Hold a hearing on that.)
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To: torchthemummy

Obama is an idot and unqualifed to be the POTUS...

All Dems are History revisionists... We invaded Iraq to remove the brutal dicatator Saddam Hussein in order to prevent him the capability of state sponsoring terror organizations including Al-Qaida in a post 911 world. So removing him from power was the right thing to do... The mess that ensued due to Al-Qaida and foreign fighter involvement in fomenting sectarian violence is the cause of our initial mission. So lotgic dictates that if by removing our troops causes genocide then the person responsible for making that decision is the one that caused the genocide.... So Obama supports genocide of the Iraqi people!


57 posted on 07/20/2007 11:47:58 AM PDT by tomnbeverly (Conservatives that use emotion to hype issues without relying on facts are just as bad as Liberals .)
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To: torchthemummy

So much for “the greater good” thingy, huh? That only works on the “poor vs. the evil rich” in America, I guess.


58 posted on 07/20/2007 11:52:42 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: Dr. Frank fan

“The people considered “liberals”, on the “left”, are in fact mostly isolationist America-firsters.”

No, not “firsters”. Their beliefs don’t arise from patriotism but hate and the inability to get out of their Vietnam mindset because they have nothing else to identify with.


59 posted on 07/20/2007 11:54:48 AM PDT by Shermy
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To: Puddleglum
well, to be fair, he didn’t say what the headline says

Further proof that the LSM is "in the bag for the Hag". Headlines that don't quite match the article are not accidental.

60 posted on 07/20/2007 11:56:16 AM PDT by Mygirlsmom (I practice Calorie Offset Trading. I eat a candy bar & pay my kid 10 bucks to run around the block)
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