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Lessons from the Sudetenland by Benjamin Netanyahu
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Posted on 07/19/2007 11:18:15 AM PDT by Scythian
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posted on
07/19/2007 11:18:18 AM PDT
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Scythian
To: Scythian
Shimon Peres just said
"The time had come for his nation to surrender its biblical heartland in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) to the Palestinian Arabs."
So I thought this post needed a fresh read ...
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=178&nid=13455 which is exactly what Bibi said was behind it all ...
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posted on
07/19/2007 11:26:08 AM PDT
by
Scythian
To: Scythian
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posted on
07/19/2007 11:27:47 AM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: RhoTheta
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posted on
07/19/2007 11:33:32 AM PDT
by
Egon
("If all your friends were named Cliff, would you jump off them??" - Hugh Neutron)
To: Scythian
25 years from now children will ask their history teachers “Why didn’t the world listen to people like Netanyahu when they had the chance?” The teacher will just ashamed, look away, and sigh.
Churchill was an ignorant “war monger” for 15 years before everything he had said became self-evident.
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posted on
07/19/2007 11:35:28 AM PDT
by
Mad_as_heck
(The MSM - America's (domestic) public enemy #1.)
To: Yo-Yo
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posted on
07/19/2007 11:46:37 AM PDT
by
johnny7
("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
To: Mad_as_heck
Churchill was an ignorant war monger for 15 years before everything he had said became self-evident.
You are exactly right, not only that, he held onto the very end and without him Europe would have been lost before we ever got over there. I always get emotional during SuperTramps "Crime of the Century" song in which they have parts of his recorded speech "We shall never surrender".
Bibi is right, it's plain as the nose on our faces yet it's going to happen anyway ...
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posted on
07/19/2007 11:47:14 AM PDT
by
Scythian
To: Scythian
Shimon Peres also has said that history is meaningless and teaches us nothing.
He’s right as far as he himself is concerned; he has proven unable (or unwilling) to learning anything from history.
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posted on
07/19/2007 11:54:05 AM PDT
by
Piranha
To: Scythian; Bokababe; zagor-te-nej; Lion in Winter; Honorary Serb; jb6; Incorrigible; DTA; ma bell; ..
They should subtitle this one “Lessons to be Learned in Kosovo!”
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posted on
07/19/2007 11:55:19 AM PDT
by
FormerLib
(Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
To: Scythian
In government, in parliament, and in the press, Chamberlain and Daladier were praised, cheered, and thanked for having traded land for peace. "My friends," said Chamberlain, "I believe it is peace in our time." Meanwhile, at the same time, Hitler was telling his generals as they were planning the invasion of Poland, "Our enemies are little worms, I saw them in Munich."
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posted on
07/19/2007 11:56:17 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
To: johnny7
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posted on
07/19/2007 12:00:28 PM PDT
by
Yo-Yo
(USAF, TAC, 12th AF, 366 TFW, 366 MG, 366 CRS, Mtn Home AFB, 1978-81)
To: Yo-Yo
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posted on
07/19/2007 12:12:55 PM PDT
by
johnny7
("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
To: Scythian
He makes a good comparison. As much as I sympathize with Isreal and find the Palestinians in deep denial regarding Israel, I make these points:
1) This argument may have had more logic if Jordan still claimed the West Bank. Jordan claimed the West Bank after the partition of Palestine until after Jordan lost the territory in the War of 67. With the Sudetenland, Germany claimed the Sudetenland because of the Germans living there. With the West Bank, Jordan is not claiming the territory, Palestinians are claiming soverignty by virture of the partition of Palestine in 1948.
2) Israel is not likely to claim the West Bank as part of its territory or that the Palestinians are Israeli. If that happened and the Palestinians became Israeli citizens, they would soon outvote Jewish voters.
3) As long as the Palestinians seek to destroy Israel, I have no problem with the IDF keeping control of the West Bank. Even if peace is achieved, I would expect that the West Bank would not be militarized by the Palestinians. However, keeping the Palestinians in a state of limbo where they have no state, no self-determination is not right UNLESS the Palestinians are a security threat to Isreal. A successful peace treaty would be predicated on the same kind of peace as the Israeli-Egyptian Camp David treaty.
THE PROBLEM is not with Israel, it is that the Palestinians are in deep denial. That WILL have to change before true peace.
To: GeorgefromGeorgia
However, keeping the Palestinians in a state of limbo where they have no state, no self-determination is not right UNLESS the Palestinians are a security threat to Isreal.
LOL
The Palestinians are surrounded by a Muslim group of neighbors (their own people for goodness sakes) that are in fact the size of the United States yet no-one will take them in? Now that's funny, there is no occupation, there are no camps, the only reason there are Palestinians is for this effort alone. Israel took in I think 3 million folks from Russia and Ethopia (total) almost doubling their population, think about it .... The Palestinians haven't built a single road or school in 20 years ...
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posted on
07/19/2007 12:23:31 PM PDT
by
Scythian
To: Scythian
I agree. Jordan gave them up because there were more trouble than they were worth.
To: Scythian
The other lesson to be learned is that you must totally destroy your enemies to end the fight. A bloody nose will not do.
WWI was a bloody nose for Germany. The population never saw their neighborhoods blown up and blood in the streets. They eagerly marched off to war again just 20 short years later.
WWII delivered a decisive and devastating defeat, the effect of shock and awe has not been forgotten. Same goes for Japan.
Nothing else has ever been proven to work.
If Israel doesn’t wipe its enemies off the map, they will win in the end.
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posted on
07/19/2007 1:09:35 PM PDT
by
Bon mots
To: Scythian
The quote for William reminded me - I recommend his “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” to everyone who knows how to read. Shirer was right there during the years that led up to World War II. As well as being extremely instructive it is a real page turner. It looks forbiddingly long and dense but it is worth the effort.
To: Bon mots
The Western powers again did nothing. Once more, all their assurance proved worthless That is why Israel has the atomic and hydrogen bomb.
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posted on
07/19/2007 1:23:54 PM PDT
by
cpdiii
(Pharmacist, Pilot, Geologist, Oil Field Trash and proud of it.)
To: GeorgefromGeorgia
“True Peace”. It’s nice that we still have dreamers around. There will never be true peace in that area. (God told me this in His Word) Who you going to believe, Bill Clinton, Jimmah Carter, or God?
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posted on
07/19/2007 1:33:30 PM PDT
by
fish hawk
(The religion of Darwinism = Monkey Intellect)
To: Scythian
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posted on
07/19/2007 1:54:08 PM PDT
by
betty boop
("Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." -- A. Einstein)
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