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Fred Thompson backs off lobbying denial
Politico ^ | 7/12/07 | Mike Allen

Posted on 07/13/2007 7:48:24 AM PDT by pissant

Fred Thompson is backing off his flat denial that he once lobbied for an abortion-rights group. He now says he doesn’t remember it, but does not dispute evidence to the contrary.

The climb-down could be a significant embarrassment for a prospective candidate with a plain-spoken appeal and who has courted the GOP’s anti-abortion base, although Thompson and his advisers had signaled for several days that it was coming.

Realizing that opponents in both parties are mining his legal career for damaging ammunition, Thompson also is engaging in a bit of preemption. He writes in a column posted Wednesday by the conservative Power Line blog: “[I]f a client has a legal and ethical right to take a position, then you may appropriately represent him as long as he does not lie or otherwise conduct himself improperly while you are representing him. In almost 30 years of practicing law I must have had hundreds of clients and thousands of conversations about legal matters. Like any good lawyer, I would always try to give my best, objective and professional opinion on any legal question presented to me.”

The abortion-rights issue arose when the Los Angeles Times reported last week that Thompson had “accepted a lobbying assignment” from the National Family Planning and Reproductive Health Association, which wanted the administration of President George H.W. Bush to relax a restriction on federal payments to clinics that offered abortion counseling.

Thompson spokesman Mark Corallo told the Times in an e-mail: “Fred Thompson did not lobby for this group, period.” The Times said minutes from a board meeting of the group suggested otherwise.

On Thursday, Corallo offered a less sweeping comment about Thompson and the group: “He has no recollection of doing any work for this group. And since he was of counsel and not a member of the firm, it was not unusual for the firm’s partners to trot their clients in to meet him, get his views and even some advice.”

So the difference may boil down to how you define “lobbying.” It has been clear for several days that Thompson was not going to stick with a complete denial. When an Associated Press reporter asked him about the matter this weekend at the Young Republicans National Convention, he deflected with one of his folksy observations: “I’d just say the flies get bigger in the summertime. I guess the flies are buzzing.”

Then in an interview with Sean Hannity that was reported by Thomas B. Edsall of The Huffington Post, Thompson was even more evasive: “You need to separate a lawyer who is advocating a position from the position itself.”

The former “Law and Order” actor has an anti-abortion voting record as a U.S. senator from Tennessee, but some statements he made early in his political career have led some conservatives to question whether he once had favored abortion rights.

The lobbying controversy illustrates the harsh scrutiny that awaits Thompson when he formally kicks off his campaign, and shows the difficulty of trying to answer high-stakes questions without a full campaign infrastructure.

Thompson aides say they do not believe the brouhaha has hurt him with Republican voters. “Consider the source,” said one Thompson adviser. “Conservatives don’t pay much attention to liberal groups that say they want to help, and tell them why their guy isn’t as great as they think.”

The lobbying story is one of several recent pieces criticizing Thompson, and advisers are now considering pushing back his announcement even further. They had planned to schedule the announcement before an Aug. 5 debate in Des Moines, Iowa, but now are considering jumping in even later than that.

The advisers say they realize how searing the scrutiny will be and want to be ready. And they want to have more of their staff in place. Thompson has to convince skeptics he’s ready for the race and ready for the job, and hopes that a top-flight campaign operation will help make that case. The announcement date will be based on factors that include IRS regulations governing when Thompson will have to disclose the millions of dollars he has already raised.

Thompson says in the Power Line column that he had “half dozen or so lobbying clients.” His column concludes: ‘I’m certainly not surprised that such a diverse career is being mined by others. As we get further into this political season we will undoubtedly see the further intersection of law, politics and the mainstream media.”


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion; elections; fred; fredthompson; nfpra; prolife
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
So do you think that Fred plans on being pro-choice should he be elected?

Of course not.

My point was that Meirs had changed her philosophy as well. And she got roasted.

Quite the double standard.

141 posted on 07/13/2007 11:14:34 AM PDT by what's up
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Unless, unlike Romeny, his campaign is trying to deny he ever was pro-choice. That’s far worse admitting your flip flop.


142 posted on 07/13/2007 11:16:08 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: BritExPatInFla

143 posted on 07/13/2007 11:16:56 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: kevkrom

They already are. Click on the details and look at the member results vs non members.


144 posted on 07/13/2007 11:16:56 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (Well Fred’s got a 60-40 lead. I intend to change that -- pissant)
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To: what's up

The smart ones admit it and point to the fact that he’s still got a great record and he’s now pro-life. A perfectly valid response. The deniers are still twisting.


145 posted on 07/13/2007 11:18:21 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: kevkrom
The "silly" thing is your spin.

Again, had Fred actually denied the charge, this thread would not be in existence.

Fred Thompson backs off lobbying denial

146 posted on 07/13/2007 11:19:21 AM PDT by Gelato (... a liberal is a liberal is a liberal ...)
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To: what's up
My point was that Meirs had changed her philosophy as well. And she got roasted.

Meirs can't beat Hillary. Neither can Rudy McRomney or that guy with two first names.

Fred can.

147 posted on 07/13/2007 11:22:33 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My apologies. I did not realize that you were being sarcastic. Carry on!


148 posted on 07/13/2007 11:28:17 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Gelato
Let's look at this closely, shall we?

1) Thompson spokesman Mark Corallo told the Times in an e-mail: “Fred Thompson did not lobby for this group, period.”

2) On Thursday, Corallo offered a less sweeping comment about Thompson and the group: “He has no recollection of doing any work for this group. And since he was of counsel and not a member of the firm, it was not unusual for the firm’s partners to trot their clients in to meet him, get his views and even some advice.”

Ignoring the editorializing at the start of #2, these statements are not in conflict with each other. The first statement, that Thompson never lobbied for the group, is absolutely true -- not even the Clinton operatives dredging up this bogus story claim that he actually performed any lobbying (they try to imply it, but even they don't go as far as to claim it explicitly).

The statement in #2 is more ambiguous, because it is much, much broader. Doing "any work" covers the type of advice described several times in this thread. It is possible that he did provide this type of quick consult, but that he does not remember ever having done so. He does not flat-out deny it, because it could have happened, and if documentation to that effect does happen to turn up and there's a flat denial, then that's a gotcha, even though it's otherwise a complete non-issue.

But the denial on doing any actual lobbying work was made, has not been retracted, and is confirmed by all of the other principal players.

That's why your objections are silly -- they are based on nonsense and not the facts at hand. Good lord, when did FReepers start accepting the LA Times and Clinton operatives at face value?

149 posted on 07/13/2007 11:31:43 AM PDT by kevkrom (The religion of global warming: "There is no goddess but Gaia and Al Gore is her profit.")
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To: Kevmo
To suggest that Thompson "supports murder" is outrageous. rob21 should have been banned. See below:

Rob21 got banned for trying to hold Fred’s feet to the fire on abortion. The claim was that he was distorting the record, but that claim is starting to sound hollow to me.
To: Grunthor

“Now how many decades ago did Fred make a pro-choice statement?”

So what? Mitt Romney made his statements in support of abortion a long time ago, but he is still attacked for making them. Why shouldn’t we be concerned about Fred Thompson’s support for murder?

9 posted on 06/24/2007 10:47:34 AM CDT by rob21 (Duncan Hunter 2008)
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150 posted on 07/13/2007 11:38:08 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Gelato

That article contains no new information that we didn’t have yesterday. It’s a rehash with a slant that the anti-Freds like.


151 posted on 07/13/2007 11:40:53 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: cripplecreek

“I remember every job I’ve ever held.”

You made me laugh.

BTW - If true, he and his supporters owe at least one other candidate a great big apology.


152 posted on 07/13/2007 11:43:43 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!)
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To: pissant
Unless, unlike Romeny, his campaign is trying to deny he ever was pro-choice. T
Ah, the serpent in the tree reading words and meaning into the issue in the absence of hard evidence! Insinuating the non-existent.
153 posted on 07/13/2007 11:44:10 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: kevkrom
Good lord, when did FReepers start accepting the LA Times and Clinton operatives at face value?

When it helps to hurt the candidate just about everyone is willing to back, and not the one they have starry-eyed supported.

154 posted on 07/13/2007 11:44:42 AM PDT by Pistolshot (Every woman, who can, should learn to shoot, and carry a gun.)
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To: Clara Lou

Oh, my mistake. Tell me where they claimed he was previously pro-choice and I’ll have the mods pull me post. Thanks


155 posted on 07/13/2007 11:48:22 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: Clara Lou

It isn’t that outrageous for some of the pro-life people on this forum who consider abortion to be murder.

If there is one issue that I think someone’s feet should be held to the fire on, it is this one. A little bit of rhetorical lattitude is proper here, considering the 50M lost souls.


156 posted on 07/13/2007 11:50:22 AM PDT by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)
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To: pissant
Every time I call you on your baseless suggestions, you toss back at me some fake new standard that must be met in order for you to be wrong. Play your game with yourself. Thompson's senate voting record is clear, as you know. Want to know what others think? Go to Email from the National Right to Life Committee I don't notice any of your hissings being posted on that thread.
157 posted on 07/13/2007 11:56:08 AM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Clara Lou

Do you want me to re-post all of his past pro-choice statements again? I’m sure you’ve seen them many times, but continue to tapdance around them. But I’ll find them, yet again.


158 posted on 07/13/2007 11:58:15 AM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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To: pissant

Show me all of his pro-choice votes, please. ...waiting...waiting...waiting...crickets chirping happily...


159 posted on 07/13/2007 12:02:04 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Fred Thompson, '08-- imwithfred.com)
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To: Clara Lou

Did I say anything about his voting? Well yes I did on our last thread. That is: Voting for restrictions on abortion does NOT make someone pro-life, especially if you are pro-choice as Fred was at least thru the 1996 election.


160 posted on 07/13/2007 12:04:07 PM PDT by pissant (Duncan Hunter: Warrior, Statesman, Conservative)
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