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THE 'QUIT IRAQ' CAUCUS: RECIPE FOR MASSACRE
The New York Post ^ | July 11,2007 | Ralph Peters

Posted on 07/11/2007 5:05:02 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE

July 11, 2007 -- Pelosi & Reid: Pushing for a pullout that's sure to yield vast carnage.

EVEN as our troops make serious progress against al-Qaeda-in-Iraq and other extremists, Congress - including Republican members - is sending the terrorists a message: "Don't lose heart, we'll save you!"

Iraq's a mess. Got it. The Bush administration has made so many mistakes I stopped counting a year ago. But we've finally got a general in Baghdad - Dave Petraeus - who's doing things right. Iraqi politicians are still disgracing themselves, but our troops are killing America's enemies - with the help of our former enemies.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: 110th; cutandrun; iraq; ralphpeters
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1 posted on 07/11/2007 5:05:04 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE
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To: Jen's Mom

Reid wants us out of Iraq?

Okay, let him say publically

“I Harry Reid, am fully aware that my policies will lead to Genocide in Iraq, yet I will put all of my effort into seeing that the one thing standing in the way of that, the US military is pulled out of Iraq, allowing that Genocide to happen”

Ditto Pelosi, Murtha, Clinton etc.

Their policies will lead to Genocide, and they should not be able to say “We didn’t see it coming”.


2 posted on 07/11/2007 5:11:44 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35

The Democrats have all stated as much without mentioning the genocide that will occur.


3 posted on 07/11/2007 5:15:13 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE (Liberals are the enemy within)
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To: Jen's Mom

“The Democrats have all stated as much without mentioning the genocide that will occur.”

Then President Bush or Tony Snow should call them out publicly, they should have no room to sleeze their way out if they are successful at forcing our Soldiers to come home before there is any sort of resolution of this war.


4 posted on 07/11/2007 5:22:53 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35
It is not only that an assured genocide at a scale that we cannot imagine will happen in Iraq if we leave but it is that the consequences on our national security will be worst than any nightmare we can imagine.

If we leave Iraq before we achieve victory there, Al Qaeda will control not only Iraq but the whole Middle East and its vast oil resources. They will be emboldened beyond belief and they will use the hundreds of billions of oil money to launch terrorists attacks against the US and the West that dwarf those of 9/11 terrorist attacks by a many folds not to consider the oil weapon itself that they can use to destroy our economies.

We are not in Iraq for the Iraqis we there first and foremost for our own national security, and to preserve our freedom and our way of life and that of our children and grand children against a seventh century islamic barbaric society.

5 posted on 07/11/2007 5:27:20 AM PDT by jveritas (God bless our brave troops and President Bush.)
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To: padre35

The President and Tony Snow have much more class than that.


6 posted on 07/11/2007 5:32:09 AM PDT by Stars&StripesNE (Liberals are the enemy within)
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To: Jen's Mom
This is where I part company with many of my fellow Freepers, I think that genocide is exactly what is needed to deal with the islammunism problem. Many of us were cheering both sides on during the Fatah vs. Hamas fighting in Gaza, figuring correctly that the more Palis that kill each other, the less the Israeli Defense Force has to deal with in the near future.

Al Qaeda may indeed set up within Iraq, but will have its own enemies to contend with there. Besides, if they ever do get an identifyable command post, we can just knock it out with a cruise missle, MOAB, or some other appropriate munition. Leaving our guys there to go out on routine patrols just to get three a day killed is not doing anything to detoxify Iraq, or help our aims.

We need to give our people some R&R, and let them re-engage as attackers in the next set of battles (Iran, probably), and not be stuck as babysitters for squabbling Iraqi factions. Let the surviving muzzies of 2020 decide that they learned the lessons of total war (like the Europeans did after the religious wars of the 16th and 17th Centuries), and then they might be ready for democracy rather than the dictatorship that has marked the vast majority of their history.

7 posted on 07/11/2007 5:44:22 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: padre35
Reid can give himself the Donk’s official George McGovern Genocide Award.
8 posted on 07/11/2007 5:44:45 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Jen's Mom
The Bush administration has made so many mistakes I stopped counting a year ago.

Has anyone ever come across an actual list of all the mistakes Bush has made besides what would normally be called missteps in any other war?
9 posted on 07/11/2007 5:46:35 AM PDT by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: jveritas
Democrats didn’t care about mass murders when Stalin and Mao massacred or starved millions of their own people. Clinton killed more people in Kosovo than the Serbs, yet that was a good war, despite the fact that is was a war of choice.
10 posted on 07/11/2007 5:52:38 AM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: hunter112

Allowing a Genocide ot occur through deliberate inaction on our part is too ghastly to contemplate.

It does have a Realpolitik appeal, but it just cannot be allowed to happen if we ever hope to call the US a moral and good country.


11 posted on 07/11/2007 5:53:25 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: Jen's Mom
I believe that if we pull out now, that in the near future there will be another 6 day type war with all the Middle Eastern countries lining up against Israel.

However, this time it will involve nuclear weapons.

It would be hard for a logical person to make a case for cowardly Reid and Pelosie having a lick of sense, gumption or brains.

They may not have much in the intelligence department but God certainly blessed them with all the ugly he could muster.

12 posted on 07/11/2007 5:54:18 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Kalifornia, a red state wannabe. I don't take Ex Lax I just read the New York Times.)
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To: padre35
Allowing a Genocide ot occur through deliberate inaction on our part is too ghastly to contemplate.

That sounds like the same rationale that the liberals use, when they want our soldiers to be in harm's way in Darfur.

We didn't create the Shia-Sunni division, that happened a millenium before our nation even existed. We toppled a dictator, and spent thousands of lives and billions of dollars to give these SOB's a shot at becoming a prosperous, peaceful nation. They got a "Marshall Plan", even though there was no Communism to build them up against.

Just simply for what we have done already, we are a good and moral nation. The fact that the 'government' of Iraq can't get its Shiite together is not our failing. The whole of muslimdom is a cancer on the face of the world, islamunism needs to go on the same dung heap of history that fascism, Nazism, and Communism have all landed. Greasing the skids under that process will be one more gift America can provide in the interest of world peace, prosperity, and security.

13 posted on 07/11/2007 6:00:10 AM PDT by hunter112 (Change will happen when very good men are forced to do very bad things.)
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To: Jen's Mom
The President and Tony Snow have much more class than that.

That is why they keep losing. This is War, not a friendly game of contract bridge. There are times when one must dispense with social niceties and speak in clear, unambiguous terms. This is one of them.

14 posted on 07/11/2007 6:00:55 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: hunter112

unlike Darfur, we created the scope of this mess, we knwo what will happen if we pull back, yet if we pull back knowing what we know, then we would be ultimately responsible for a genocide in Iraq.

If needed, partition the country, do whatever, but to just leave would be unconscienable on our part, at the end of the day, the thing that seperates “US’ from “the islamofascists” is they would indeed allow the killing to happen and even cheer it onward.


15 posted on 07/11/2007 6:05:03 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: padre35

They’ll just blame President Bush, citing the edenic state of Iraq before we went in and messed it up. Bastards!


16 posted on 07/11/2007 6:13:13 AM PDT by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
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To: Jen's Mom

All the liberal idiots who wring their hands over this war will avert their eyes when the slaughter begins after we pull out.


17 posted on 07/11/2007 6:15:06 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: hunter112

The part of the “surge” that I’m questioning is the concept that the bad guys are going to run out of men or materials in the near future and I’m asking how exactly is that going to happen? Iran is on the front door and Syria is at the back door of Iraq and both countries are for all intents and purposes safe havens for the bad guys.When it started getting too hot for Sadr in Iraq what did he do,went running to Iran and he’s far from being out of the picture.I honestly hope AND pray that the current effort in Iraq gets the job done but I think what it says is it will take a looooooooooooong term occupation by US forces to keep the situation stable !!!


18 posted on 07/11/2007 6:16:40 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Rummyfan
"They’ll just blame President Bush, citing the edenic state of Iraq before we went in and messed it up. " That is why President Bush needs to get out in front and put forward the fact that a pull out equals support for a Genocide in Iraq. Leave them no room to sleeze out of the trap they are building for themselves and our country.
19 posted on 07/11/2007 6:17:14 AM PDT by padre35 (Conservative in Exile.)
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To: Jen's Mom

Well, if there is massacres then it’s important that they get named appropriately.

The Harry Ried Massacre
The Nancy Pelose Bloodbath
The Cindy Sheehan Slaughter

etc...


20 posted on 07/11/2007 6:20:32 AM PDT by Dreagon
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