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1 posted on 07/11/2007 3:40:06 AM PDT by liberallarry
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The "sun's"??? magnetic field shields the Earth from its high energy

Who wrote this crap?
62 posted on 07/11/2007 4:31:58 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS (Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the person who doesn't get it.)
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The guardian is a commie rag. Anything that they say is automatically suspect.


65 posted on 07/11/2007 4:34:08 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged
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the time frame’s too small, I think. Also, if the mass of the Earth were heated, it would release the heat when external cooling occurred. Just like the mass used to passively heat some homes.

But again, since when do scientists decide anything based on one study of such a small time frame? When they are politicians, not scientists.


80 posted on 07/11/2007 4:45:52 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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The planet's climate has long fluctuated, say the climate sceptics

Have these idiots never heard of the ice ages?
84 posted on 07/11/2007 4:50:01 AM PDT by true_blue_texican (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic...)
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This paper is really in the bag for GW.


103 posted on 07/11/2007 5:15:22 AM PDT by Mike Darancette (Democrat Happens!)
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...has firmly put the notion to rest.

Notice how the reporter acolyte states this with absolute authority......

106 posted on 07/11/2007 5:16:01 AM PDT by Red Badger (No wonder Mexico is so filthy. Everybody who does cleaning jobs is HERE!.......)
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Who paid for the study?


110 posted on 07/11/2007 5:17:12 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (This space for rent.)
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"James Hansen, a Nasa climate scientist who was once gagged by the Bush administration for speaking out on global warming, said the issue of whether the sun's activity is causing global warming had been dispensed with by most scientists long ago."

James Hansen! This guy has more global warming grant money stuffed under his bed than he knows what to do with. He's Al Gore's little beotch!

129 posted on 07/11/2007 5:31:54 AM PDT by avacado
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Translation: Don’t look at the scientific facts - believe our BS and Al Gore. WE know better than real climatologists!!!


137 posted on 07/11/2007 5:38:27 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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But a new analysis of data on the sun's output in the last 25 years of the 20th century has firmly put the notion to rest.

The new analysis has NOT firmly put the notion to rest. The "new" analysis only focuses on the Sun's magnetic field activity. There is more to the Sun's role in global warming that just magnetic field activity, plus even that has a range of physical reactions. Plus there is scientific evidence that the Sun has gotten a bit hotter this current solar cycle. It is a multidimensional phenomenon that requires systems analysis to sort out, IMO.

139 posted on 07/11/2007 5:40:23 AM PDT by olezip
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OK, I will bite ... Question, what ended the last ice age 18,000 years ago?


146 posted on 07/11/2007 5:45:36 AM PDT by Tarpon
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Black Sunday April 14, 1935. The dust storm that turned day into night. Many believed the world was coming to an end.


160 posted on 07/11/2007 5:56:51 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco
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Why are you collectivist so in love with propaganda paid for by a nanny state government?

A “scientific” study that took at least 4 months of “fact” finding and conclusion suddenly trumps everything like this study which recently came out:

http://nzclimatescience.net/images/PDFs/alexander2707.pdf

How does your climate pastor/priest/warlock/shaman/voodoo peddler respond to the hypocritical fact that CO2 rose rapidly for 30 years yet the earth’s temp. went down to the point that these same scientist you worship were scared of an ice age back in the 70’s?

Like some other poster said, Lockwood not a scientist, more like a government paid propagandist/hit man blinding ignoramuses with their degrees.

Tell me, does it take a person with a degree to tell you that the world is round and not flat?

Does it take someone with a degree to tell you that if you jump off the top of the Empire State building you likely will fall to the ground?

189 posted on 07/11/2007 6:30:36 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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the earth’s distance from the sun is always varying slightly, and that would increase aned decrease the solar input


191 posted on 07/11/2007 6:34:10 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo (Skip the Moon, go for Mars)
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The SUN RULES!
192 posted on 07/11/2007 6:35:56 AM PDT by NordP (HUNTER: "The real question for Mexico--Why are your people crossing burning deserts to get away?")
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Yet not all “serious scientists” are global warming alarmists. What’s more, Hansen has come under fire for years for faulty claims that have not panned out against reality.

“[O]n June 23, 1988, NASA scientist James Hansen testified before the House of Representatives that there was a strong ‘cause and effect relationship’ between observed temperatures and human emissions into the atmosphere,” the University of Virginia’s Pat Michaels testified in a 1998 congressional hearing.

“At that time,” Michaels noted, “Hansen also produced a model of the future behavior of the globe’s temperature,” a model “that global temperature between 1988 and 1997 would rise by 0.45°C.” Michaels then produced data showing “lower atmosphere temperatures” – a decline of 0.36 and 0.24 degrees Celsius when measured by weather balloon and satellite respectively.

In short, Michaels concluded, “The forecast made in 1988 was an astounding failure” and a 1990 United Nations climate change panel’s “statement about the realistic nature of these projections was simply wrong.”

More recently, Michaels, a senior fellow in environmental studies at the libertarian Cato Institute, assailed Hansen’s ocean temperature models, citing research from a federal government scientist.

“In the next few weeks, John Lyman of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration will publish a paper in the refereed journal Geophysical Research Letters showing that, globally, the top 2,500 feet of the ocean lost a tremendous amount of heat between 2003 and 2005 – in fact, about 20% of all the heat gained in the last half-century,” wrote Michaels in an August 29 article.

Recently, the Business & Media Institute documented how Hansen was part of a stacked panel on climate change on CNBC’s September 24 program, “Global Players,” where he was labeled onscreen as the “world’s leading climate scientist.”

Hansen has been a media staple on climate change science at least since late January, when The New York Times asserted that Hansen, “The top climate scientist at NASA says the Bush administration has tried to stop him from speaking out.”

But as the Times reported, NASA officials denied trying to silence his scientific analysis while admitting they prefer scientists to stop short of making public policy statements, such as Hansen’s call for regulation to curb “greenhouse gases.”

What’s more according to that Times story, Hansen had little or no documentary evidence of a politically coordinated campaign to stifle his viewpoints.

ABC Reheats Leftover Bias on Global Warming, Showcases Hansen

202 posted on 07/11/2007 7:10:02 AM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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New analysis counters claims that solar activity is linked to global warming

My furnace has nothing to do with how warm my house is in the winter either....

204 posted on 07/11/2007 7:16:24 AM PDT by SteamShovel (Global Warming, the New Patriotism)
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LMAO!!!
Now what would the sun have to do with the earth’s temperature?
HAHAhahahahaaaa..........!


209 posted on 07/11/2007 7:27:08 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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I like how they tried to explain away the ‘lag’ explanation...

‘Because nobody had mentioned it before’

What!!!!????? That’s not very scientific.


211 posted on 07/11/2007 7:33:18 AM PDT by Vanbasten
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“There appears to be a solar “fingerprint” that can be detected in climatic time
series in other regions of the world, with each series having a unique lag time
between the solar signal and the hydroclimatic response.
A progression of increasing lag times can be spatially linked to the ocean
conveyor belt, which may transport the solar signal over a time span of
several decades.”

www.umweltluege.de/pdf/Gamma_Rays_and_Climate.pdf

If I understand this, if changes in the Sun happen today, it will not immediately change the Earth`s climate.


212 posted on 07/11/2007 7:38:24 AM PDT by chessplayer
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