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"If costs continue to spiral out of control, there is no way the government can afford to pay for it."

--Gov. Rendell

A major cause, he argues, is the more than $6 billion in unnecessary annual costs for the treatment of infections, injuries caused by medical errors and controllable chronic conditions like diabetes, asthma and heart disease.

Welcome to the brave new world of "public health" courtesy of Socialized Healthcare. This is the root cause of all nanny state government policies.

If you smoke and get cancer...the state pays. If you eat fried cheese curds and get type 2 diabetes...the state pays. If you drink and get cirrhosis of the liver...the state pays.

If it is their obligation to pay, isn't it their right (indeed duty) to intervene and tell people what they can and can't do.

1 posted on 07/10/2007 10:01:05 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084
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2 posted on 07/10/2007 10:04:19 AM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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Government already pays 65% of all healthcare dollars in the US, through Medicare, Medicaid, VA, etc. To blame costs on “private industry” and “corporate fat cats” is kinda silly.

Regulation and liability is turning medical care into a regional monopoly, especially for hospitals.

Third party payment and lack of competition is driving costs up at an unacceptable rate.

Note that the cost non-reimbursed care such are vision correction surgury has dropped by 40% to 60% in the last few years, as free market competition drives prices down and quality up.


6 posted on 07/10/2007 10:13:08 AM PDT by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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"Once confident that his package would win quick approval, he now puts the odds of success at 50-50. Mr. Rendell says he is calling for shared sacrifice. “Everyone’s ox gets gored a little bit in this,” he said in an interview here. “If we’re ever going to have accessible health insurance for all Americans, we have to begin by containing costs."

Yet CA's Dope Smokin, Gubernatorial Leftist, Arnoiled Suckswinegger, superior celebrity European-American bull-slingin cum-politician, still thinks he can force us to buy state run monopolized coverage just like they force us to use DMV!!! (or like they probably have in Austria and most of "old EUrope!")

At least with the Post Office you now have some alternatives like email, and the new merged companies Fed Ex and UPS, under the banner of Fed-UP!!!

10 posted on 07/10/2007 10:20:02 AM PDT by SierraWasp (SIERRA REPUBLIC!!! (our 51st united state)(all of CA excluding coastal counties))
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“Everyone’s ox gets gored a little bit in this,” he said in an interview here.

Hospitals, doctors, insurers, small businesses..hmm...who we missing here?

Oh yes, the agressive malpractice plaintiffs' attorneys that have made PA one of most expensive states in the country to obtain malpractice insurance. Tort reform? Caps on punitive damage awards? Don't see that in Fa(s)t Eddie's proposal anwhere...
11 posted on 07/10/2007 10:32:20 AM PDT by Give Piece A Chance
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"Everyone’s ox gets gored a little bit in this,” he said in an interview here. “If we’re ever going to have accessible health insurance for all Americans, we have to begin by containing costs. If costs continue to spiral out of control, there is no way the government can afford to pay for it."

There's the money quote.

13 posted on 07/10/2007 10:41:19 AM PDT by HoosierHawk
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Rendell says: “Everyone’s ox gets gored a little bit in this,”

No. Only those who have accumulated sufficient wealth to own an ox. Everyone else will be sharing in the benefit of oxen for which they have sacrificed nothing.

16 posted on 07/10/2007 10:49:56 AM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Do the folks of PA really want the same people who run PENNDOT to be running healthcare?


19 posted on 07/10/2007 11:17:06 AM PDT by trimom
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To: Eric Blair 2084

If the state really wants to cut costs as quickly as possible, shouldn’t they be buying all our beer and cigarettes?


20 posted on 07/10/2007 11:28:15 AM PDT by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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Governor Rendell says, “If we’re ever going to have accessible health insurance for all Americans, we have to begin by getting a$$holes like me off the highway and out of our emergency rooms."

There, I fixed it, Ed.

22 posted on 07/10/2007 1:27:21 PM PDT by badgerlandjim (Hillary Clinton is to politics as Helen Thomas is to beauty)
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