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1 posted on 07/08/2007 7:13:20 AM PDT by Dysart
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"I think it's the stupidest idea I've ever heard of," said Brian O'Brien, a wealthy Houston oilman who has an 18,000-acre ranch, seven miles of it along the Rio Grande, near Eagle Pass. "If the river doesn't keep them out, why do you think a wall will?"

Translation: I've gotten very rich on the backs of illegals and I'm gonna keep sneaking them in.

2 posted on 07/08/2007 7:19:51 AM PDT by Seruzawa (Attila the Hun... wasn't he a liberal?)
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If they build it, I suspect it will be a major bureaucratic boondoggle. In fact, I’m wondering if they aren’t purposely designing something that is so awkward and unworkable that they don’t have to build it.

There’s no such thing as a wall that nobody can get through, over or under, unless it is guarded. The also need personnel to guard it, and they need to enforce the laws on welfare and employment and anchor babies and so forth, so illegals won’t be so desperate to come here.


3 posted on 07/08/2007 7:20:03 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Mexico is unfriendly to us, we just want to return the favor.


4 posted on 07/08/2007 7:22:35 AM PDT by wastedyears (Freedom is the right of all sentient beings - Peter Cullen as Optimus Prime)
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The Texas Rangers were originally formed to enforce the Texas-Mexico border.....and they enforced the hell out of it.

And then, we joined the United States.

5 posted on 07/08/2007 7:26:37 AM PDT by laotzu
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"If the wall would help I wouldn't mind. But it won't help. It'll be a big expense, a big problem, ugly as hell and unfriendly to Mexico," said Moody, 84, born in Galveston and heir to one of the largest and oldest fortunes in Texas
...and whose fortune he owes to the broken backs of the humans his family exploited that are in the U.S. working illegally and so cannot force him to pay an them an honest wage, decent wage.

Sometimes you wish you had someone phone number so you could call them and tell them what a smuck they are. And what propoganda from the reporter. Where was the barf alert tag on this one?

6 posted on 07/08/2007 7:27:06 AM PDT by BJungNan
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Here we go with the predicable barrage of “it can’t be done” articles. Expect more of them. This is a predicable result of 1)the defeat of the shamnesty bill, and 2)the very real prospect of a Fred “it’s a national security issue” Thompson presidency. Put them in the same “gee what a surprise” category as the the attacks on his “trophy wife”.
7 posted on 07/08/2007 7:27:59 AM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Thompson / Hunter in 2008)
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A wall is only going to work if there are machine guns on top of it and the will to use them. IMHO.


8 posted on 07/08/2007 7:28:15 AM PDT by Ditter
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Forget the fence, lay a 300m deep minefield with toe poppers and claymores along the entire Mexican border. Problem solved.

You pays your pesos, you takes your chances Pedro, roll the bones.


9 posted on 07/08/2007 7:28:48 AM PDT by stm (Fred Thompson in 08! Return our country to the era of Reagan Conservatism)
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Now is not the time to let up. We need to pressure our politicians to enforce the existing immigration laws including deporting illegal aliens, building the fence and prosecuting businesses who do business with illegal aliens. The link below is a ping list to pay attention for other questionable legislation being considered in Congress.

Keeping Track Of The Congress Critters
10 posted on 07/08/2007 7:30:07 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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“For fence proponents, Operation Gatekeeper is proof that fences work. For critics, it’s proof they don’t.”

The typical leftist retort to anything that they don’t want to do is that it’s not a 100% solution, so we shouldn’t pursue it. The fence isn’t 100%, so it’s not worth doing; ANWR doesn’t solve the entire oil crisis, so we shouldn’t drill there; abstinence schooling isn’t 100%, so we shouldn’t do that; some people have bad parents, so we shouldn’t require parental notification before abortions on minors; and on and on.

Of course, for liberal causes, the most minor progress is reason enough to pursue it: if just ONE life is saved it’s worth inconveniencing or increasing mortal risk to the rest of the entire world; if we can increase the scholastic of just ONE child, we should double or triple the tax rate; a SINGLE instance of racial prejudice is reason enough to justify national affirmative action programs; and on and on.

It gets pretty tiresome after a time.

12 posted on 07/08/2007 7:32:20 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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Simple solution: If the landowners don’t want the wall/fence to protect their land, just build the fence around it. They will end up on the Mexico side, but so what? It will still protect the rest of us from the illegal insanity.


13 posted on 07/08/2007 7:32:42 AM PDT by whipitgood (Let's burn some MEXICAN flags!)
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Being 84 years old I am sure the world he remembers is not the same world we have today. I can remember a time when illegals might break into a hunting cabin and eat some food, but they would not trash the place and would usually wash their dishes when finished. I can also remember when this changed.


15 posted on 07/08/2007 7:35:44 AM PDT by WesternPacific
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What nobody can say with any certainty is whether fences will actually help secure the border.

There is a fence around the White House and we know for certainty that it secures THAT border.

17 posted on 07/08/2007 7:36:47 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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Give a wall—just like a real war—(taking the gloves off) a CHANCE.


18 posted on 07/08/2007 7:36:58 AM PDT by NordP (HUNTER: "The real question for Mexico--Why are your people crossing burning deserts to get away?")
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19 posted on 07/08/2007 7:37:29 AM PDT by KDD
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It’s not that hard but you have to want to and obviously the people in charge don’t really want to.

This is so discouraging.


20 posted on 07/08/2007 7:37:53 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy (Romney Rocks!)
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A journalistic attempt to maginify the negatives and minimize the positives in the border fence ...

“Officially, the 700-mile barrier would cost about $3 million a mile, or $2.1 billion. But independent estimates show the cost of building and maintaining the fence could go as high as $49 billion over 25 years.”

I dont believe those numbers, but ... under $2 billion a year to secure the border? It’s a deal!


25 posted on 07/08/2007 7:44:46 AM PDT by WOSG (thank the Senators who voted "NO": 202-224-3121, 1-866-340-9281)
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It’s an America issue, not a Texas issue. If the people of Dearborn decided that jihadis should be able to cross into Michigan via Toronto, they should have no special say in the matter of border security based on their proximity.


27 posted on 07/08/2007 7:47:17 AM PDT by Perchant
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That pesky 13th Amendment!

Southern landowners are still using slave labor.

They’re very very very worried, that they’ll actually have to hire people at competitive wages.

That’s what this is all about.


28 posted on 07/08/2007 7:47:27 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (D is for Defeatism. R is for Reconquista.)
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“IF” the fence is ever actually built, the fenced portions will funnel illegal activities to the unfenced portions- it happens now with increased enforcement in certain areas. What I propose is where there is opposition to the fence- leave those sections until the end of the project- by then anyone not profiting from illegal activity will be begging for a fence in their area.


30 posted on 07/08/2007 7:48:55 AM PDT by Tammy8 (Please Support and pray for our Troops, as they serve us every day.)
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