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Harsh US immigration rules force Microsoft to open shop in Canada
Breitbart.com ^ | July 5, 2007

Posted on 07/05/2007 7:33:02 PM PDT by Babu

US software behemoth Microsoft Corp. said Thursday it would soon open an office in Canada, lamenting tough immigration rules in the United States that make it difficult to hire foreign staff.

"It is about recruiting the best and brightest, and right now, the majority are coming from overseas," Marc Seaman, a spokesman for the world's biggest software company, told The Globe and Mail newspaper.

"The United States has immigration quotas and some limitations for bringing in people from outside the country," he said. "That challenge is an opportunity for Canada, in the sense that this will bring the top software developers to Canada."

The development office, to be opened in Vancouver, a three-hour drive north from Microsoft's Redmond, Washington headquarters, will initially be staffed by some 300 recruits from around the world, the company said.

Eventually, it could grow to house as many as 1,000 employees.

Canada is currently the third-largest source of recruits for Microsoft outside the United States, after India and Japan.


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KEYWORDS: aliens; globalism; immigrantlist; microsoft; trade
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I think it was you who pinged me to the You Tube video, and yes I remember. Lawyers teaching corporations how to cheat.


81 posted on 07/05/2007 9:37:06 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: SteveMcKing
They are not entitled to any of that. If they find it, great, but not by breaking laws

How did they break the law? By doing business abroad?

82 posted on 07/05/2007 9:44:50 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: doc1019
I have gazion megabytes of data, can all this crap be converted to Unix, Linux?

Depends upon what type of data it is.

If it's primarily word and excel docs, graphics or vids, then sure. If you do a lot of stuff in visio, then not so much. One of the best ways to see if it will work for you is to download a copy of Knoppix or Ubuntu. You can boot and run them right from the cd/dvd without affecting your hard disk at all. If you like it, you can install it locally, if not, just reboot and you're back to where you started. "Live" distributions are a great way to test out linux.



83 posted on 07/05/2007 10:08:44 PM PDT by zeugma (Don't Want illegal Alien Amnesty? Call 800-417-7666)
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To: LibertyRocks
I hope Mr. Gates will be moving with his company...

He recently found out he wasn't the richest guy, he was only the third richest guy. He must want to regain his top spot. I call that GREEDY.

84 posted on 07/05/2007 10:29:08 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: janetgreen

Is it greed or motivation? What’s wrong with wanting to be the richest or the biggest or the best?


85 posted on 07/06/2007 4:53:10 AM PDT by myrabach
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To: SteveMcKing
Think about what you just said:

It’s not cheap labor..it’s educated labor. Remember Microsoft (evil big business)recruiting from some college in Florida, with classes set up to bring reality of the job marketplace and technology to the students in the classroom itself..and professors felt MS should not be on campus, as it took away from the freedom of a students educational experience in that the student, heaven forbid, was directed in a certain course of “job market required” study. This is the mentality of thought in education.

We also are not graduating those with the skills to be able to lead in technology. In India, most students have already been scouted and will have a job upon graduation. Check out sometime the number of engineers we graduate compared to other so named countries. Sad. If you have a calls starting out with 200 students, you are lucky to have 16 graduate, as they go on to an easier course of study.

Blame the US laying more importance allowing jobs for illiterate Hispanics from South of the Border. Yes, many of the illegals are illiterate-can speak Spanish but cannot read-so much for all the Wal-Marts and Home Depots hoping to attract this part of the population. But this opens another can of worms.

Politicians cater to the uninformed vote, the informed voter scares them.

Subject: Dumbing Down of America.

86 posted on 07/06/2007 5:08:42 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay (John Edwards -- " War on Terror : A Bumper Sticker")
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To: janetgreen; myrabach

See Post #86

Reality, not greed. One doesn’t get ahead without the best and the brightest.


87 posted on 07/06/2007 5:11:18 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay (John Edwards -- " War on Terror : A Bumper Sticker")
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To: doc1019; zeugma
One of the best ways to see if it will work for you is to download a copy of Knoppix or Ubuntu.

I would suggest installing OpenOffice.org on your Windows machine. If you can read your data using OOo, then you can read it under Linux as well, since most Linux distros install OOo by default.

88 posted on 07/06/2007 5:27:29 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Babu

Pay market wages, talent follows the money.


89 posted on 07/06/2007 5:28:59 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: dragnet2

Post #86..I understand MS’s frustration. Other high tech companies follow suit. No new technology in the pipelines, might be said of some suppliers in telecoms. You snooze, you lose!

Immigration rules so mentioned mean the ease of a pre-job approved individual (one with skills needed) able to enter the US within a number/ quota allowed.

Seems service related jobs are more important to our government than scientists, engineers, etc. If our schools are not putting out what is needed to make a difference in the marketplace, then you have to go where the talent is.
It is not about the salary paid as you will see in earlier posts.

It is about Made in America, not being Made in America because of lack of aforementioned described necessary talent.


90 posted on 07/06/2007 5:56:16 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay (John Edwards -- " War on Terror : A Bumper Sticker")
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To: Hydroshock

WILL SHOW YOU THE MONEY..
BUT YOU CAN’T SHOW ME THE TALENT.

(that’s the problem..)


91 posted on 07/06/2007 5:58:20 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay (John Edwards -- " War on Terror : A Bumper Sticker")
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To: fight_truth_decay

I personally know two good programmers who have gotten out of IT in the past couple of years due to lack of jobs and the lack of money. One even worked for microsoft inteh late 80’s, early 90’s. One told me of a story were he applied at a business were a friend worked and despite the monster ad, they already had teh H1B visa hired ready to go. They just had to jump through the hoops.


92 posted on 07/06/2007 6:04:56 AM PDT by Hydroshock (Duncan Hunter For President, checkout gohunter08.com.)
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To: weegee

If you do that to MS then you apply it to ALL of the companies that outsource/move to India, Mexico etc.

Not a bad idea. If a company moves most of their operations outside of the U.S. then they are a foreign company owned by U.S. citizens. Lay on those tariffs!


93 posted on 07/06/2007 7:13:21 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Babu

After this thing in England with the Doctors. I think H1 visas could pose a security risk. There are plenty of talented Americans-Gates is full of it. He merely wants to pay the worker less. Also, Canada has national benefits so Mr. Gates doesn’t have to pay for medical. Mr. Gates made all his money here; he is a disgrace. I can hardly wait for some enterprising person to come up with a viable alternative to Windows. I will buy it the first day.


94 posted on 07/06/2007 7:16:02 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: RJS1950

I agree!


95 posted on 07/06/2007 7:16:38 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: fight_truth_decay

Why bother to major in computers when dolts like Gates are determined that everyone except Americans are ‘better’ (cheaper in my opinion). I have had dealings with these Indian programmers-most are not better-only cheap.


96 posted on 07/06/2007 7:18:23 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: TopQuark

Guys like Gates are very similar to the freepers who bash all American cars...if it is American, it is inferior-a whole group of self-hating Americans in my opinion who have no love for their country and can not be considered patriots.


97 posted on 07/06/2007 7:21:13 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
I can hardly wait for some enterprising person to come up with a viable alternative to Windows. I will buy it the first day.

Contrary to what you may have seen here, there are viable alternatives to MS. I am 100% MS free, and I have run into very few issues. Mostly some streaming audio. I've found other streaming sites that do a better job, though, so I'm not missing anything.

98 posted on 07/06/2007 7:53:31 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Tell me what you use- please. I am serious. I hate Microsoft. I don’t like the spyware associated with Vist. I have banned messenger in my house. I don’t like the fact they can look at you system everytime you update. They let known security issues languish. Truly, Microsoft has grown too large and way to arrogant.


99 posted on 07/06/2007 7:57:43 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: Babu

The H-1B visa is counterproductive to America’s free market principles. The H-1B visa holder must work for the sponsor company for 6 years and cannot accept better job offers. That is not the free market. That is indentured servitude.


100 posted on 07/06/2007 8:01:03 AM PDT by avacado
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