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[Hillary] Clinton Draws Distictions on Pardons
UK Guardian ^ | Tuesday July 3, 2007 7:16 PM | Mike Glover

Posted on 07/03/2007 12:57:27 PM PDT by hardback

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To: hardback
``This (the Libby decision) was clearly an effort to protect the White House. ... There isn't any doubt now, what we know is that Libby was carrying out the implicit or explicit wishes of the vice president, or maybe the president as well, in the further effort to stifle dissent.'

Yeah, that stifling sure worked well didn't it!

21 posted on 07/03/2007 1:06:47 PM PDT by Edgerunner (If leftists don't like it, I do. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: Always Right

If the b!tches lips are moving, she’s lying!


22 posted on 07/03/2007 1:07:10 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: b4its2late
Her husband's pardons, issued in the closing hours of his presidency, were simply routine exercise in the use of the pardon power, and none were aimed at protecting the Clinton presidency or legacy, she said.

-- Roger Clinton, who was convicted of drug-related charges in the 1980s. He was sentenced to two years in prison after pleading guilty in 1985 to conspiring to distribute cocaine. He cooperated with authorities and testified against other drug defendants.

-- Susan McDougal, a former real estate business partner of the Clintons. She was sentenced in 1996 and released from prison in 1998. She was convicted of four felonies related to a fraudulent $300,000 federally backed loan that she and her husband, James McDougal, never repaid. One tenth of the loan amount was placed briefly in the name of Whitewater Development, the Arkansas real estate venture of the Clintons and the McDougals. Her attorney, Mark Geragos, said he remains hopeful that she would be pardoned, refusing to say whether he has received any indication from the White House that she would be pardoned. She was incarcerated for 21 months.

-- Henry Cisneros, who served as secretary of Housing and Urban Development during Clinton's first term in office. He was convicted of making false statements to FBI agents conducting a background investigation of him when he was nominated to the Cabinet post in 1993. They included misleading investigators about cash payments he made to a former mistress.

-- Former CIA Director John Deutch. The one-time spy chief and top Pentagon official was facing criminal charges in connection with his mishandling of national secrets on a home computer.

23 posted on 07/03/2007 1:07:27 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket
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To: hardback

let ‘em try and undercut bush as much as they want

he ain’t running in the next election


24 posted on 07/03/2007 1:07:31 PM PDT by incredulous joe (Vote for Christian Bagge - www.energizerkeepgoinghalloffame.com)
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To: kittymyrib
He should have been in prison for lying to the FBI, as I recall.

so should she...

25 posted on 07/03/2007 1:08:44 PM PDT by Edgerunner (If leftists don't like it, I do. Keep your powder dry...)
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To: hardback

...well ours were good and yours were bad. I don’t feel I need to explain myself to you.

Vote Hillary in ‘08...


26 posted on 07/03/2007 1:10:32 PM PDT by Tzimisce (How Would Mohammed Vote? Hillary for President! www.dndorks.com)
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To: hardback
``This (the Libby decision) was clearly an effort to protect the White House. ... There isn't any doubt now, what we know is that Libby was carrying out the implicit or explicit wishes of the vice president, or maybe the president as well, in the further effort to stifle dissent.''

The WH better get out in front of this one. If they just accept it, rather than aggressively rebutting her, they will be a bigger loser on this than we ever imagined.

27 posted on 07/03/2007 1:10:43 PM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: So Cal Rocket

On August 11, 1999, Clinton commuted the sentences of 16 members of FALN, a violent Puerto Rican nationalist group that set off 120 bombs in the United States mostly in New York City and Chicago, convicted for conspiracies to commit robbery, bomb-making, and sedition, as well as for firearms and explosives violations.[3] None of the 16 were convicted of bombings or any crime which injured another person, though they were sentenced with terms ranging from 35 to 105 years in prison for the conviction of conspiracy and sedition. Congress, however, recognizes that the FALN is responsible for “6 deaths and the permanent maiming of dozens of others, including law enforcement officials.”


28 posted on 07/03/2007 1:11:22 PM PDT by b4its2late (Liberalism is a mental disorder.)
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To: hardback

All I remember is there being a tape of a phone conversation where Roger said something to the effect that Billy Boy “had a nose like a vacuum cleaner”.


29 posted on 07/03/2007 1:13:17 PM PDT by NoBullZone
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To: stockpirate
Yes Bill only pardons people who pay us with huge bags of cash.

Give XXX-42 a break. He also pardons those whose supporters will vote for Hillary for Senate (FALN members and the New Square 4).

30 posted on 07/03/2007 1:13:46 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (A base looking for a party.)
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To: hardback
``I believe that presidential pardon authority is available to any president, and almost all presidents have exercised it,'' Clinton said in a telephone interview with The Associated Press.

Unless of course the President happens to be a Republican and then he can't exercise any of the executive powers granted to the President in the constitution. When Republican, or conservative, Presidents exercise their powers they are somehow committing "uncontitutional" acts, according to the liberal bible.

31 posted on 07/03/2007 1:14:40 PM PDT by calex59
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To: hardback

“Hillary, how many pardons did YOU sell during your tenure as First Lady with Hog Ankles?”


32 posted on 07/03/2007 1:14:45 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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To: massgopguy

Right on and well stated. That is the whole thing in a nutshell.


33 posted on 07/03/2007 1:15:01 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: NoBullZone

Prolly why Roger and Bill both have such red, bulbous noses.


34 posted on 07/03/2007 1:15:24 PM PDT by Sig Sauer P220
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To: tcrlaf

I am amazed that the MSM does not recall that Hillary’s brothers were also selling pardons, as one was even living in the White House for about a month. She is so delusional when she accuses GWB of any illegal activity. Why doesn’t anybody call her on these and all of the other crap that went on in the White House when she and Bill were there? Has anyone asked her recently just where the 900+ FBI files on Republican personnel got to? What a load of crap she is!


35 posted on 07/03/2007 1:16:02 PM PDT by steve7
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To: hardback
Maybe when Fred gets elected he can look into pursuing a federal bribes-for-pardons case like the state case he prosecuted against former Tennessee governor and current felon Ray Blanton.

That would be cool.

36 posted on 07/03/2007 1:16:56 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: the invisib1e hand

Who can forget how Fat Bottomed Girl and His Slickness (remember it was a “co-presidency”) pardoned the FALN terrorists.

Never forget.


37 posted on 07/03/2007 1:17:14 PM PDT by sauropod ("An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools." Ernest Hemingway)
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To: Sig Sauer P220

> Prolly why Roger and Bill both have such red, bulbous noses. <

I have no doubt ...


38 posted on 07/03/2007 1:18:20 PM PDT by NoBullZone
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To: hardback

Hey Hitlery-stick it up your rotten ass.

Clinton’s decision to invoke executive privilege stirs controversy
By Jonathan Karl/CNN

September 17, 1999
Web posted at: 3:27 p.m. EDT (1927 GMT)

WASHINGTON — By claiming executive privilege Thursday, President Bill Clinton asserted Congress has no business investigating his decision to grant clemency to 16 convicted Puerto Rican nationalists.

“Pursuant to the Constitution and separation of powers doctrine,” Deputy White House Counsel Cheryl Mills wrote, “the president’s authority to grant clemency is not subject to legislative oversight.”

The letter came in response to a subpoena from Rep. Dan Burton (R-Indiana) for information and testimony on the president’s clemency offer. Congressional investigators want to show that the president’s own top law enforcement officials opposed clemency. Undaunted, the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, Orrin Hatch, says he will issue his own subpoenas.

“If they say no,” said Hatch, “we’ll have to go to court. The court may very well hold that it’s a political question. If that’s so, then it’s going to have to become a political event. And we’re going to just have to show that these people don’t shoot straight, they’re not honest, they’re not decent and they shouldn’t be in the White House.”

Even some Senate Democrats question the president’s right to assert executive privilege in this case.

“The people of the country are entitled to know why this decision was reached and its ramifications,” said Democratic Sen. Robert Torricelli of New Jersey, a member of the Judiciary Committee.

But in making the case for executive privilege, the White House quoted no less a legal scholar than Chief Justice William Rehnquist. In 1971, while in President Richard Nixon’s Justice Department, Rehnquist wrote: “The president and his immediate advisers should be deemed absolutely immune from testimonial compulsion by a congressional committee.”

“All presidents,” said legal scholar Jim Hamilton, “from (Dwight) Eisenhower to (Harry) Truman on up the line, have taken steps to protect the sanctity of the deliberative process, because otherwise, they’re not going to get frank advice from their aides.”

But Republicans point to the case of President Gerald Ford. Faced with congressional outrage over his decision to pardon Nixon, Ford waived executive privilege and came before Congress to answer questions himself. At the time, Ford’s Press Secretary Ron Nessen explained: “The best approach is the direct approach, because as president, the power of pardon is solely his.”

Privately, congressional Republicans concede they will likely lose the legal battle over executive privilege, but they say the president will lose the political battle because it looks like he has something to hide.


39 posted on 07/03/2007 1:18:34 PM PDT by NoobRep
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To: stockpirate
Yes Bill only pardons people who pay us with huge bags of cash.

You've put it right in her face! Good work.

(I expect the irony and hypocrisy of her comments will not be lost on the political comics, as it was not on you.)

40 posted on 07/03/2007 1:19:12 PM PDT by SergeiRachmaninov
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