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Attorney: Wal-Mart Collected On Deaths [Life Insurance Policies on People Without Telling Them]
Tampa Tribune ^ | Jul 3, 2007 | ELAINE SILVESTRINI

Posted on 07/03/2007 8:28:15 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity

TAMPA - When Karen Armatrout died in 1997, her employer, Wal-Mart, collected thousands of dollars on a life insurance policy the retail giant had taken out without telling her, according to a lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court.

Armatrout was one of about 350,000 employees Wal-Mart secretly insured nationwide, said Texas attorney Michael D. Myers, who estimated the company collected on 75 to 100 policies involving Florida employees who died.

Myers is seeking to make the Armatrout lawsuit a class-action case on behalf of the estates of all the Florida employees who died while unwittingly insured by Wal-Mart.

"Creepy's a good word for it," Myers said. "If you ask the executives that decided to buy these policies and the insurance companies that sold them, they would say this was designed to create tax benefits for the company, which would use the benefits for benevolent purposes such as buying employee medical benefits.

"If you asked me, I would say they did it to make more money."

Wal-Mart spokesman John Simley said he could not comment because the company has not been served with the lawsuit.

The company settled two lawsuits with employees represented by Myers in Texas and Oklahoma, one for about $10 million and one for about $5 million. He said Karen Armatrout came to his attention when Wal-Mart mistakenly gave her husband's phone number to an Oklahoman who called the retailer inquiring about the settlement.

Myers said he also has filed a lawsuit against Wal-Mart in Louisiana.

Payouts Up To $80,000

Richard Armatrout, who is retired, does not want to speak publicly about his case, Myers said. Armatrout did not respond to a message left by the Tribune.

Karen Armatrout was 50 when she died of cancer, said Myers, who said she had worked several years in the pharmacy of the store on West Waters Avenue.

Myers said the policy payouts ranged from $50,000 to $80,000, depending on the person's age and gender. They were taken out on all full-time Wal-Mart employees who, in December 1993, were between ages 18 and 70 and participated in the medical benefits plan.

He said the company stopped taking out the policies in 1995 but continued to receive payouts on employees who died, even those who had left Wal-Mart.

Wal-Mart, which said it canceled its policies in early 2000 because it was losing money on the arrangement, says the program was intended to reduce its income taxes to help pay rising employee health care costs. Workers were notified and given the opportunity to opt out, the company said.

The Armatrout lawsuit says the policies were all written in Georgia, where the laws allowed such policies to be obtained.

The lawsuit says Wal-Mart used confidential information it received from employees for use in their employment, such as Social Security numbers and dates of birth, to obtain the life insurance policies.

Myers said this corporate practice is not uncommon. He estimates that up to 25 percent of Fortune 500 companies have taken out such policies on employees. The vast majority of the time, the employees didn't know, Myers said.

The practice evolved over time, Myers said. Corporations started by taking out large life insurance policies on key executives, getting tax breaks when they paid the premiums and collecting the payouts.

IRS Not Pleased, Attorney Says

The amounts of those policies grew to the point that Congress limited how much a company could insure an individual for, Myers said. Insurance companies then suggested buying lots of small policies on companies' work forces, the attorney said. He said the Internal Revenue Service has labeled the practice a sham and has successfully litigated the issue against several corporations.

Myers said his law firm has sued corporations for the practice, including Winn-Dixie and Fina Oil and Chemical. The latest case is its first in Florida.

The practice spread beyond top executives in the 1980s when the industry successfully lobbied states to allow employers to claim an "insurable interest" in the lives of rank-and-file workers.

Many employers seized on the practice because they could borrow against the policies, and the interest paid was tax-deductible. Congress closed that loophole in 1996, but COLI - corporate owned life insurance - remained a popular investment strategy.

The chief appeal was that interest accrues over time on the money in such policies. When a worker dies, the employer collects without paying taxes on the gain.

In 2001, premiums on such policies swelled to $2.8 billion from $1.5 billion the year before, according to a report by CAST Management Consultants of Los Angeles.

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report. Reporter Elaine Silvestrini can be reached at (813) 259-7837 or esilvestrini@tampatrib.com.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buymorejunk; chinamart; itscrapjustbuyit; lifeinsurance; walmart
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To: HamiltonJay

You mean my Kelloggs Frosted Flakes are from China and not BC, MI?


101 posted on 07/03/2007 2:49:19 PM PDT by art_rocks
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To: Scythian
What a cute, but thoroughly naive little opinion you have there.
102 posted on 07/03/2007 2:51:28 PM PDT by Clam Digger (Have a safe & happy 4th!)
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To: art_rocks

The vitamins sprayed on the flakes ARE from China.


103 posted on 07/03/2007 2:58:03 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: discostu

“...the Internal Revenue Service has labeled the practice a sham and has successfully litigated the issue against several corporations.”
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discostu:I’m not saying they weren’t shunting income to non-taxable streams, I’m saying that’s not illegal. Tax avoidance is not illegal, you are allowed to use every loophole in the code, that’s why they’re there.
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the IRS says otherwise... insurance must have a legitimate purpose.


104 posted on 07/03/2007 3:11:42 PM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Neidermeyer

“tax exempt nature of of insurance benefits”.

I’m just sayin’. If it was your business you were running, with thousands of employees or whatever, I’d bet you would think it’s a great idea. Corporations do all kinds of things you and I can’t really do, I’ll give you that. Depreciation is actually income, etc.


105 posted on 07/03/2007 3:19:31 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: Neidermeyer

Then let them go after WM. At that point WM will pay, either way I don’t really give a crap. It is everyone’s duty to pay as little in taxes as they can legally get away with, I don’t have a problem with anyone that does that, if they crossed the line into illegality then the IRS can go bust them.


106 posted on 07/03/2007 3:23:25 PM PDT by discostu (indecision may or may not be my biggest problem)
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To: Mr. K

Funny, I had no idea that this sort of thing was standard practice for businesses. And if there’s nothing wrong with it, then what’s the current lawsuit about? And why would Wal-Mart be settling $5-$10 million lawsuits instead of fighting it?

Lots of unanswered questions here and a guy sure can’t trust the media to present it without bias.


107 posted on 07/03/2007 3:24:32 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Sharpei diem -- Seize the wrinkled dog.)
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To: art_rocks

“Despite protestations from the community and workforce, the historic hometown plant in Battle Creek was closed and 550 jobs were eliminated.” http://www.answers.com/topic/kellogg-company?cat=biz-fin .

They had recently closed part of the plant, firing about half of the employees. The 550 were what was left after that.

“...Kellogg took the extra step of scrutinizing the ingredients it does import from China, such as vitamins, honey, cinnamon, water chestnuts and freeze-dried strawberries.” http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003769764_chinaprod01.html .

Enjoy!


108 posted on 07/03/2007 3:26:45 PM PDT by BykrBayb (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub ~ Þ)
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To: Freedom4US

If it’s ethical to take out life insurance policies on employees without their knowledge or consent, is it also ethical to take out life insurance policies on customers without their knowledge or consent? Walmart has a bigger financial interest in any given customer than they do in an employee. How much revenue do they lose when a customer dies?

Notice I’m not asking what the law allows. The debate all along has been the ethical implications. Let’s stick to that.


109 posted on 07/03/2007 3:30:44 PM PDT by BykrBayb (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub ~ Þ)
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To: miliantnutcase
I agree. However, I think these people probably signed something in their hiring process that agreed to this. Who really reads the fine print anyway!

I have worked for wal mart for the last 4 years.

The info has its own paragraph and is quite clear on my hire packet. And yes! There is a little box next to it.

110 posted on 07/03/2007 3:48:09 PM PDT by wanderin
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To: BykrBayb

How many people wouldn’t be bothered by somebody taking out life insurance policies on their kids? No big deal, right? (Until it starts hitting close to home.)

The Privacy Act of 1974 says that I have to be notified in writing of the use of my social security number. Wal-Mart had better have letters via registered mail on file. They already settled one lawsuit for $5 million and another for $10 million, so I’m finding it hard to believe that nothing wrong is being done here.


111 posted on 07/03/2007 4:08:18 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Sharpei diem -- Seize the wrinkled dog.)
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To: BykrBayb

I think you’ve got a point there. Hm.

Like someone else mentioned too, I don’t trust a news organization to soundbyte this even remotely correctly, either.


112 posted on 07/03/2007 4:08:22 PM PDT by Freedom4US
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To: wanderin
The info has its own paragraph and is quite clear on my hire packet. And yes! There is a little box next to it.

Not according to Myers:

He said the company stopped taking out the policies in 1995 but continued to receive payouts on employees who died, even those who had left Wal-Mart.
If Walmart is still doing this, why would Myers (who is suing them) claim they've stopped?
113 posted on 07/03/2007 4:29:06 PM PDT by BykrBayb (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb
If Walmart is still doing this, why would Myers (who is suing them) claim they've stopped?

Per Myers client: “The Armatrout lawsuit says the policies were all written in Georgia, where the laws allowed such policies to be obtained. “

Different state laws plus a decade of new laws on or off the books. That they insure me doesn't bother me a bit.

114 posted on 07/03/2007 4:41:08 PM PDT by wanderin
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I smell attorneys wanting money for nothing.


115 posted on 07/03/2007 5:03:26 PM PDT by WildWeasel
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To: wanderin

You work for them so of course you will defend them, your paycheck depends on it. (/WM basher logic)


116 posted on 07/03/2007 5:05:16 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: BykrBayb
The debate all along has been the ethical implications. Let’s stick to that.

Then the ethical thing is to question any and all companies that participate in this practice and not just single out WalMart. Of course doing that would take some ethics on the part of the writer and the lawyer and would take all the fun out of WalMart bashing..........

117 posted on 07/03/2007 5:11:14 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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To: Gabz

Yes, they should have named the other companies that conceal this practice from their employees. The author’s failure to name them doesn’t make it ethical to take out insurance policies on people without their knowledge or consent.

Most people would probably consent to the insurance policy. But it is still unethical to take out a policy on someone’s life without their consent. It is even more unethical to conceal the policy from them.


118 posted on 07/03/2007 6:07:19 PM PDT by BykrBayb (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub ~ Þ)
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To: wanderin

Interesting non-response. Does Walmart still take out policies on their employees, or not? According to the lawyer suing them, they don’t. I doubt he would lie to cover for them.


119 posted on 07/03/2007 6:10:10 PM PDT by BykrBayb (This tagline in memory of FReeper 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub ~ Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

I agree it would be unethical to do it without consent, but according to the article and at least one WM employee on this thread the employees are/were told and did have to consent to it.

What bothers me here is that although the article states that at least 25% of Fortune 500 companies engage in this practice, the article and many people on this thread just automatically pile on WalMart.


120 posted on 07/03/2007 6:16:23 PM PDT by Gabz (Don't tell my mom I'm a lobbyist, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse)
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