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Couple of interesting things to note. Did you know our “Journalists” lump Iraqi Police/Military casualties in with Iraqi Civilian deaths?

After reading the below did you know US Military casualties were down almost 20% in June after peaking in April and May?

Of course not. Why? Because the Democrat noise machine pretending to be "Journalists" merely change the way they report the casualties figures to give a false perception. So when monthly causalities totals go down, they change to reporting quarterly casualty counts rather then report the decrease. Then if casualities go up in July, they will go back to reporting monthly totals. The decisive factor in which factoid they decide to use is which will paint the bleakest picutre of the situation in Iraq. The more you watch the US "News" media in action, the more you come to realize they are propaganidsts, not Journalists. This link gives you the raw casualties data.

http://icasualties.org/oif/

Civilian deaths decreasing (In Iraq)

CentralDaily.com ^ | 07-01-07 | By Mike Drummond

Posted on 07/01/2007 4:49:30 AM CDT by MNJohnnie

BAGHDAD — Iraqi civilian deaths in Baghdad dropped significantly in June, a possible indication that recent American military operations around the country and raids on car-bomb shops in the “belts” ringing the capital are starting to pay off.

But June also marked the end of the bloodiest quarter for U.S. troops since the war began in March 2003.

BAGHDAD — Iraqi civilian deaths in Baghdad dropped significantly in June, a possible indication that recent American military operations around the country and raids on car-bomb shops in the “belts” ringing the capital are starting to pay off.

But June also marked the end of the bloodiest quarter for U.S. troops since the war began in March 2003.

Unofficial figures compiled by McClatchy Newspapers’ show 189 Iraqis, including police and government security forces, were killed in the capital through Friday, a drop of almost two thirds since this year’s high in February, when 520 were killed. The average monthly death toll of Iraqis in Baghdad was 410 from December through May.

The downturn in civilian deaths in Baghdad, should the figures hold, could arm Lt. Gen. David Petraeus, the top U.S. military commander in Iraq, with the kind of results he needs to forestall pressure to set timetables on troop withdrawals. He is scheduled to deliver a progress report on the war to Congress in September.

Securing the capital remains the U.S. military’s top priority.

The trade-off for the decline in civilian deaths in Baghdad may be high U.S. casualties. The Web site icasualties.org tallied 101 U.S. soldiers killed in June, one of the deadliest months in Iraq for American forces. This raised to 330 the number of U.S. troops killed in the past three months.

The U.S. military, having added 28,500 additional forces, are now at full “surge” strength of 150,000 and are engaged in high-profile military campaigns to pacify the country.

U.S. commanders warn a higher body count is in the offing, as forces step up fighting this summer. Forty-four of the U.S. casualties in June occurred in Baghdad, caused mostly by roadside bombs — five of them Thursday in an attack involving a roadside bomb, gunfire and grenades in Baghdad’s southern Rasheed district. Seven soldiers were wounded, the military said.

But the same U.S.-led surge that is taking the fight to insurgents in Iraq is apparently still placing civilians in the crossfire.

At least 22 Iraqi citizens have died, mostly outside the capital, during U.S. clashes with Sunni insurgents and Shiite militia during the past eight days, according to Iraqi police reports. The U.S. military does not disclose the numbers of Iraqi civilians killed by American troops, despite repeated requests from McClatchy.

Civilian deaths seemingly are inevitable in urban guerilla warfare that pits U.S. forces against fighters who live among the population. U.S. military officials say they are sensitive to potential backlash that could enflame anti-American opposition here.

But civilian deaths occur. U.S. military officials said two pre-dawn raids Saturday in Shiite-dominated Sadr City in eastern Baghdad killed 26 “terrorists” and captured 17 fighters with links to Iran. U.S. forces said they opened fire on fighters detonating roadside bombs or firing guns and rocket-propelled grenades from buildings and from behind parked cars.

No U.S. casualties were reported.

U.S. forces “were in the middle of multisided firefight engaging enemy fighters,” in Sadr City, said U.S. Army spokesman Lt. Col. Christopher Garver. “We saw no evidence of any civilian casualties.”

Iraqi police, however, reported late Saturday that four Iraqi civilians were killed, and six injured during the American-led attack.

Sadr City is the sprawling stronghold of anti-American Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, where residents widely regard his Mahdi Army militiamen as freedom fighters.

Iraq Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, who has openly criticized the U.S. military for previous civilian deaths, demanded an explanation of the Sadr City attacks. He also said U.S. and Iraqi forces need to seek the government’s permission to launch raids in Baghdad.

Garver said U.S. forces attacked because the targets were members of a “secret cell network” linked to Iran, “not because of their affiliation with a militia or whatever.”

8 posted on 07/01/2007 5:24:54 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Thanks for the links. Fox News Red Eye's Greg Gutfeld is very funny and gives this nice dig about dems & MSM.

Seven Things We Now Know About Today's Car Bombing Attempt.

Don't miss to Read, if not already. Humor with Reality.

18 posted on 07/01/2007 5:38:30 AM PDT by anita
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To: MNJohnnie
Great post John, a little follow up as well, here:

http://frontpagemagazine.com/

Seems the surge is just getting underway and it may well have been designed much better than anyone thought, though the writer Frederick W. Kagan admits it may not be a slam dunk, it does bode very promising. All those who have poo-pooed the surge in the past may well have to eat their words.
I consider this piece a must read.

19 posted on 07/01/2007 5:38:52 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support The New media, Ticket the Drive-bys, --America-The land of the Free because of the Brave-)
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To: MNJohnnie

Thanks for hightlighting these info


29 posted on 07/01/2007 5:49:17 AM PDT by snugs ((An English Cheney Chick - Big Time))
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To: MNJohnnie; All

Good morning anyone.

Hey MNJ have you been able to find anything to give us an idea of how many of the enem has been killed.

I notice the DBM are quick to report even one coalition death...but have taken a vow of silence on enemy casualties.


140 posted on 07/01/2007 6:48:23 AM PDT by txradioguy (In Memory Of My Friend 1SG Tim Millsap A Co. 70th Engineer Bn. K.I.A. 25 Apr. 2005)
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To: MNJohnnie

Unbelievable, I figured as much.

Case in point, check out the header for this, then read it:
U.S. Soldiers In Baghdad Charged With Murder As 26 Iraqis Killed in Raids

BAGHDAD — Two U.S. soldiers were charged with the premeditated murder of three Iraqis, while 26 people died in American raids in Baghdad’s Sadr City neighborhood, the U.S. military said Saturday.

North of the capital, police said a homicide bomber exploded himself in a crowd of police recruits, killing at least 16 people and wounding 24. The attacker detonated his explosives belt Saturday in a market area outside a police station in Muqdadiyah, 90 kilometers (60 miles) north of Baghdad, a police officer said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.

The two American soldiers are accused of killing three Iraqis in separate incidents, then planting weapons on the victims’ remains, the military said in a statement. Fellow soldiers reported the alleged crimes, which took place between April and this month in the vicinity of Iskandariyah, 50 kilometer (30 miles) south of Baghdad, it said.

The U.S. military on Saturday identified the soldiers as Staff Sgt. Michael A. Hensley from Candler, N.C., and Spc. Jorge G. Sandoval from Laredo, Texas.

Hensley is charged with three counts each of premeditated murder, obstructing justice and “wrongfully placing weapons with the remains of deceased Iraqis,” the military said. He was placed in military confinement in Kuwait on Thursday.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287460,00.html


306 posted on 07/01/2007 9:09:02 AM PDT by AliVeritas (America, love it or leave it. To Harry Reid: See me, feel me, touch me, bite me.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Did you hear anymore on the Scotland flaming SUV suicide driver?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287472,00.html

Nevermind, look at this.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,22000869-31477,00.html


307 posted on 07/01/2007 9:15:14 AM PDT by AliVeritas (America, love it or leave it. To Harry Reid: See me, feel me, touch me, bite me.)
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To: MNJohnnie

http://www.globalincidentmap.com/home.php


309 posted on 07/01/2007 9:17:23 AM PDT by AliVeritas (America, love it or leave it. To Harry Reid: See me, feel me, touch me, bite me.)
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