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Posted on 07/01/2007 5:11:00 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
The Talk Shows
Sunday, July 1st, 2007
Guests to be interviewed today on major television talk shows:
FOX NEWS SUNDAY (Fox Network): Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff; Michael Gallagher, conservative talk radio host; Mark Green of Air America Radio.
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt.
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Sen. Richard Lugar, R-Ind.
THIS WEEK (ABC): Chertoff; Sen. Joe Lieberman, I-Conn.
LATE EDITION (CNN) : Chertoff; House Majority Whip James Clyburn, D-S.C., and Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.; Lanny Davis, former Clinton special counsel; Ben Ginsberg, former counsel to the Republican National Committee; former national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski; former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger.
The feds may try and stop locals at first, but later on that will become too massive a job.
Why do Londoners keep re-electing this fool?
“More Moslems came, and soon a small mosque was built, which attracted yet others. As long as Zoroastrians remained in the majority, their lives were tolerable; but once the Moslems became the more numerous, a petty but pervasive harassment was apt to develop. This was partly verbal, with taunts about fire-worship, and comments on how few Zoroastrians there were in the world, and how many Moslems, who must therefore posses the truth; and also on how many material advantages lay with Islam. The harassment was often also physical; boys fought, and gangs of youth waylaid and bullied individual Zoroastrians. They also diverted themselves by climbing into the local tower of silence and desecrating it, and they might even break into the fire-temple and seek to pollute or extinguish the sacred flame. Those with criminal leanings found too that a religious minority provided tempting opportunities for theft, pilfering from the open fields, and sometimes rape and arson. Those Zoroastrians who resisted all these pressures often preferred therefore in the end to sell out and move to some other place where their co-religionists were still relatively numerous, and they could live at peace; and so another village was lost to the old faith.”
Boyce, A Persian Stronghold of Zoroastrianism, pp. 7-8;
Many people you have difficulty to turn out for electing their MP let alone a mayor.
Obviously he election/re-election campaign was slick and promised much probably more social and welfare programs plus pandering to the Muslims and other ethnic groups. Add all that together and probably answered why he was re-elected.
Speak to the average man in the street and they think he is cuckoo but then only the Londoner's who vote elect him.
“Last week you fillbustered a bad bill, you did NOTHING to fix the problems you all have been raging about for years”
LOL.. we prevented the problem from getting even worse. the new bill would have sent out the clarion call to all foriegners... FLOOD OUR BORDER NOW.
Killing that bill, prevented that incentive.. so there.
Unbelievable, I figured as much.
Case in point, check out the header for this, then read it:
U.S. Soldiers In Baghdad Charged With Murder As 26 Iraqis Killed in Raids
BAGHDAD — Two U.S. soldiers were charged with the premeditated murder of three Iraqis, while 26 people died in American raids in Baghdad’s Sadr City neighborhood, the U.S. military said Saturday.
North of the capital, police said a homicide bomber exploded himself in a crowd of police recruits, killing at least 16 people and wounding 24. The attacker detonated his explosives belt Saturday in a market area outside a police station in Muqdadiyah, 90 kilometers (60 miles) north of Baghdad, a police officer said on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to release the information.
The two American soldiers are accused of killing three Iraqis in separate incidents, then planting weapons on the victims’ remains, the military said in a statement. Fellow soldiers reported the alleged crimes, which took place between April and this month in the vicinity of Iskandariyah, 50 kilometer (30 miles) south of Baghdad, it said.
The U.S. military on Saturday identified the soldiers as Staff Sgt. Michael A. Hensley from Candler, N.C., and Spc. Jorge G. Sandoval from Laredo, Texas.
Hensley is charged with three counts each of premeditated murder, obstructing justice and “wrongfully placing weapons with the remains of deceased Iraqis,” the military said. He was placed in military confinement in Kuwait on Thursday.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287460,00.html
Did you hear anymore on the Scotland flaming SUV suicide driver?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287472,00.html
Nevermind, look at this.
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,22000869-31477,00.html
Only problem is they said the same thing in 2006 and managed to dump 3 Senators that had 92% or higher Amercian Conservative Union life time voting record instead.
Absolutely. Bad data leads to bad decisions. But there appears to be an effort to obfuscate the data - on the actual number of illegals, on the actual content of the failed legislation, on the provisions of legislation already on the books, etc. Why is that?
Evidently, he let Ann on to set the record straight and was properly chastened. (I may be off somewhat, but this is what I gathered from the snips I heard.)
I don't listen to Gallagher, but in researching the pre-show thread I hit his site and he has clips from his shows. Here are two from the Friday show on point:
Segment: Elizabeth Edwards and Ann Coulter
Segment: Elizabeth Edwards and Ann Coulter So you can listen and find out if he did say what you thought he said. I didn't see any transcripts.
The White House needs the kind of rapid response internet video done for Leahy's performance on MTP that Fred produced for Michael Moore's outburst a few weeks ago. But this White House doesn't believe in fighting back. They really are trying to "change the tone" and have unilaterally disarmed.
Unfortunately Bush is right, in principle and in an ideal world, and Clinton's "permanent campaign" style of government is one of the big things wrong right now in Washington. The problems that the Bush administration has encountered as a result of doing the right thing has guaranteed, IMHO, that no president, D or R, will ever play it that way again.
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Sure seems that way doesn’t it. Of course, a refusal to call an attack just that (OU stadium, SUV rampage in NC, Seattle Jewish center, Minn. mall shooting, etc) will only drag it out longer and imperil more Americans.
Don’t forget the explosive materials at Georgia Tech, U of Michigan and a California college within the same week of the OU attempt. Oh, and the cell phone guys along with Muslims of America Red Houses, with more popping up continously (where excons go after release... and automatic weapons are at the compounds, sounds like cause to me).
Talk radio was a pent-up reaction of citizens to having to swallow the liberal agenda for years without an effective means to respond. Letters to editors were a highly selective, limited and unsatisfying recourse. Blogs did not exist.
Viewers who wanted to be informed on both sides of an issue went elsewhere, just as readers of newspapers are doing today. The "mainstream" media has not learned its lessons. Many pundits fancy themselves as clever propaganda experts who can trick the public.
Pinch Sulzberger of the NY Times candidly admits he tried but failed in his efforts to manage opinion with deceptive practices. These reporters, editors and media chiefs would rather push their ideological agendas than be profitable by appealing to a larger audience.
The solution is not to enforce the Fairness Doctrine against all news outlets that use federally controlled airwaves, but to let the free market sort out winners and losers. Yes, Mark Green, the airwaves are a scarce resource. But, why compound the problem with subsidies?
A first priority should be to defund those the outlets like NPR and PBS that receive huge subsidies from taxpayers. Let them compete for their audience, and let those who withhold information, irritate and annoy fall by the wayside.
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Whatever, he is actually not worth the bother. I listen a couple of minutes at a time, to see if he possibly has any interesting guests.
Heads up, our troops are busy indeed:
http://www.centcom.mil/sites/uscentcom2/Lists/Press%20Releases/Current%20Releases.aspx
Hmmm.
Police Recruits Pour Out to Fight al Qaeda
http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/jun2007/a062907ej3.html
Our govt. has tried to(and is) politicizing border security against the will of the people,large majorities of the people, on both sides of the aisle. That makes this very different.
The people spoke loud and clear last week that border security can not be compromised. The line was drawn in the sand. It may get erased by bureaucrats willfully ignoring US law en mass.
If that happens then our only hope will be that we get better politicos from the next election or seek justice locally, but we did speak and with one voice.And we were heard.
LOL. Kind of like calling the kettle black You are the one who introduces "emotional knee jerk responses" and name-calling, like Antis, know-nothings, macho boys, etc. You can't engage in rational discourse with that kind of tone, which seem to be sprinkled throughout your comments. Let's deal with facts. I have read both versions of the Senate bill line by line and done my own analysis. I know what is in it and the likely impact it will have on this country were it to be enacted.
I have never said that building a 700 mile fence is going to solve all of our problems, but it is a start and a visible commitment to actually address the problem after 9/11. I have always included in my responses to you the need to have control over visa overstays, much of which is already in the 1996 US Visit Program legislation. We have the Secure Fence Act of 2006 approved by all of the major candidates from both parties who serve in the Senate. Let's build what the legislation says we should build.
To start with. You been in the Govt. It is utterly absurd to expect the US Govt to build you a billion worth of fence in 6 months. NOTHING the Govt does is every done without about a zillion meetings and “studies”. It took over 60 days for the US Govt to FINALLY get some troops deployed to Afghanistan in the fall of 2001! And that was war!
Let's see if the fence with only 13 miles completed will acutally be built. That is a true test of the administration's commitment. It is also a matter of national security. I expect the USG to exercise some sense of urgency in getting it built and not throw it back to the Senate, as Chertoff suggested when asked if the Administration was still going to follow through on asking for the $4.4 billion it was attaching to the failed comprehensive immigration reform bill. The Secure Fence Act has specific deadlines on when certain portions of the fence will be completed. We are already behind schedule.
Last week you fillbustered a bad bill, you did NOTHING to fix the problems you all have been raging about for years. Merely preventing the other guy from winning is NOT the same thing as winning the war.
We should enforce the laws on the books. I have repeatedly sent you a plan on how we should approach this issue. We need to shut off the supply of illegals first and then get some good data on the scope and nature of the problem. You can't make good public policy without it. And in the meantime, we should enforce the laws of this country. The President of the United States has not fulfilled his responsibilities under the Constitution. The buck stops there.
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