Live Thread: Senate Amnesty Debate (CRITICAL 2ND CLOTURE VOTE TODAY!) Woo hoo!! It's DEAD!!

The U.S. Senate with Free Republic Input | June 28, 2007 | truthkeeper

[DCPatriot]

Before he deleted his profile (because it revealed the truth about him) DCP proudly proclaimed himself to be hopelessly liberal.

Context please?

Leave it to wtc911 to keep lying about me.

I am a staunch conservative who is hopelessly liberal on the topic of immigration. And very proud of it too.

[brazzaville]

Good morning.
“Does no change make you happy?”

Hopefully, there was a major change, but no change is always better than change for the worse.

The political elites were shown that it is harder for them to screw us than they thought and, maybe, they will now address the problem of border security before they try to force their will us.

I’m sorry you are so unhappy at how the vote went. You appear to be the only FReeper who feels that way this morning.

Michael Frazier

[Shelayne]

That is from Tuesday’s vote to today’s vote. There were a few senators that switched from “aye” to “No” within the vote today. In fact, Senator Brownback is now being called “Senator Switchback” by some because he was one obvious one.

I only heard Coleman’s name once, and that was with a “No”. I was listening very intently because he is my senator. Our other one is always disappointing me, but what else is new in this blue state?

[Miss Didi]

The Amnesty Eight Wake Up And Get Right [Jim Geraghty]


By the way, of the "Amnesty Eight" NRO identified,

Sens. Kit Bond (R., Mo.): NO

Sam Brownback (R., Kan.): NO

Richard Burr (R., N.C.): NO

Norm Coleman (R. Minn): NO

John Ensign (R. Nev.): NO

Ben Nelson (D., Neb.): NO

Mark Pryor (D., Ark.): NO

Jim Webb (D., Va.): NO

Call 'em the "No Amnesty Eight" now.

06/28 12:06 PM

[mefistofelerevised]

I haven’t had time to follow the thread. Later I’ll read the 2,000 posts.

IS IT DEAD?

[Dutch Tulip]

When it comes to our border “Doing nothing is no answer” . Feed that back to them. Don’t quit!!. Follow up. We need our borders closed.

[brazzaville]

Good morning.
“Does no change make you happy?”

Hopefully, there was a major change, but no change is better than change for the worse.

The political elites were shown that it is harder for them to pull the wool over our eyes than they thought and, maybe, they will now address the problem of border security before they try to force their will us.

I’m sorry you are so unhappy at how the vote went. You appear to be the only FReeper who feels that way this morning.

Michael Frazier

[Tennessee Nana]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

C-Span has the words.....

MAJORITY LEADER REID HAS PULLED THE BILL FROM THE FLOOR FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION

Does the Zombie Bill still live breathe walk?

[Cedric]

There’s no question this would have been a win for Reid and the Democrats. Therefore, it’s intellectually dishonest to contend (as Jeff has) that its failure to pass is not a loss for them.

[truthkeeper]

IS IT DEAD?

Deader than a doornail. :-)

[Cedric]

Yes, but Harry and da boys would’ve gleefully accepted it in its original, vague, unamended form.

[JeffAtlanta]

There’s no question this would have been a win for Reid and the Democrats. Therefore, it’s intellectually dishonest to contend (as Jeff has) that its failure to pass is not a loss for them.

Cedric, have you ever heard the term "win-win"? There are situations where a person can come out ahead no matter what happens. In most situations, one outcome is even better than the other, but neither are negative.

In this case, what did the democrats lose? They didn't have amnesty to begin with and have never pushed it seriously. They'd be happy to take it, and that is exactly what the Bush whitehouse and the GOP Senate leadership offered.

The republican leadership has alientated a significant portion of their base. Who does that hurt, the dems or the pubs?

[Regulator]

we just HAD to have that graphic

Sorry I didn't get it in earlier! I got up, saw that the vote was coming up in a half hour (I'm on the west coast), started emailing furiously to the Senate. Didn't see your thread until after the vote, when I was glued to CSPAN (after sitting through Reid's sappy, nauseating speech).

It's a great day for America and the Americans! Our Republic still lives, and the Forces of Darkness and Submission are once more pushed back!

[truthkeeper]

Another great one. I’m walking on air...we don’t get many days like this now, do we? :-)

[Regulator]

we don’t get many days like this now, do we?

Nope, and if you google "supreme court" in News, it gets even better!!

The Wife hung out the flag when the vote was posted, and we've been walking on air just like you ever since!

[Cedric]

“In this case, what did the democrats lose?”

Okay, Jeff, read and learn:

Harry Reid is the Majority Leader. He had the President Of The United States (and his Cabinet), a dozen or so quisling Republican Senators and the Drive-By Media all honking for this bill. This was supposed to be an absolute “gimme” ----- and Reid blew it! His job is to shepherd legislation through the Senate and he failed! His job approval rating sunk to 19%!

Now, you tell us all how that’s a win-win for old Harry!

[mefistofelerevised]

Fantastic! My faith in the power of the people is restored. This is a huge positive and could lead to good changes. The creeps of the senate have awoken the people in a way they didn’t want.
Thank you Jim Robinson, Sessions, Rush, Savage,and the rest.
Thank you truthkeeper. Your persistence was the final blow. Yippee!

[Loyal Buckeye]

The only reason I can think of for Republicans voting for this bill was to support businesses who want cheap labor.

Arguably, there is more cheap labor under the current unenforced laws than under the proposed law, no?

[truthkeeper]

Aw...make that yippety-skippety! (Old-timers...I haven’t said that the impeachment days of yore...remember? It used to bring LOTS of teasing.)

[Miss Didi]

Rush just said it’s dead but that they will try to bring it back to life.