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Virginia Introduces $3550 Speeding Ticket
www.thenewspaper.com ^ | 6/21/2007

Posted on 06/27/2007 11:35:12 AM PDT by bad company

Virginia motorists convicted of minor traffic violations will face a new, multi-year tax beginning July 1. Led by state Delegate David B. Albo (R-Springfield), lawmakers slipped a driver responsibility tax into a larger transportation funding bill signed by Governor Tim Kaine (D) in April. Albo, a senior partner in the Albo & Oblon, LLP traffic law firm, can expect to see a significant increase in business as motorists seek to protect their wallet from traffic tickets that come with assessments of up to $3000 in addition to an annual point tax that tops out at $700 a year for as long as the points remain.

"The purpose of the civil remedial fees imposed in this section is to generate revenue," the new law states. (Virginia Code 46.2-206.1)

Driving as little as 15 MPH over the limit on an interstate highway now brings six license demerit points, a fine of up to $2500, up to one year in jail, and a new mandatory $1050 tax. The law also imposes an additional annual fee of up to $100 if a prior conviction leaves the motorist with a balance of eight demerit points, plus $75 for each additional point (up to $700 a year). The conviction in this example remains on the record for five years.

Other six-point convictions include "failing to give a proper signal," "passing a school bus" or "driving with an obstructed view." The same $1050 assessment applies, but the conviction remains on the record for eleven years.

Although the amount of the tax can add up quickly, the law forbids judges from reducing or suspending it in any way. The tax applies only to Virginia residents, so that out-of-state motorists only need to pay the regular ticket amount. Michigan, New Jersey, New York and Texas also impose a somewhat more modest driver responsibility tax which they apply to out-of-state residents.

The Virginia Supreme Court provides a full explanation of the new penalties for each traffic infraction in the 34k PDF file at the source link below.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: albo; despotism; donutwatch; extortion; govwatch; legalisedtheft; rinos; shakedown; trafficfascism; virginia
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To: bad company

I believe a challenge of this law brought before the US Judiciary will prove it in violation of the Eighth Amendment’s text, “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”


121 posted on 06/27/2007 12:43:26 PM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: PissAndVinegar
I've been driving in LOS ANGELES since I was 16. I'm 54. No accidents. Two speeding tickets. One in the desert, one in the city. I don't drive a SUV, I drive a oldsmobile. You do NOT have "better" control at 85mph, that's ludicrous.

"then you should get a better car.", "you have very low confidence in your driving ability on top of owning a POS / poorly maintained SUV (just guessing, "

I don't have conversations with people that insist on being mean-spirited in order to gain leverage in a discussion. I'll pass.

122 posted on 06/27/2007 12:43:55 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Publius Valerius
This law capitalizes on behavior that is dangerous to the community. It is meant to generate revenue. The merchants that collect on this aren't going to encourage drivers to obey the law, rather, they are going to spend more time and effort (and money) looking for ways to catch I mean cash in on those that even come close to violating the law. The sponsor of the law is a senior partner in a traffic law firm, meaning his firm will also rake in the dough.
123 posted on 06/27/2007 12:44:18 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: zek157

I never said that.


124 posted on 06/27/2007 12:46:11 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Ancesthntr
“I can see that traffic laws exist for a reason (our safety), and that they need to be enforced with REASONABLE penalties (fines and/or imprisonment). But “reasonable” isn’t in any way what is in Virginia’s laws.”

Exactly. Some people won’t be able to pay and will lose their licenses. Then they have the choice of losing their jobs or driving without license. They end up in prison for driving without license, and go on to live a life of crime since they can never pay off their fines and so can never get their law abiding lives back.

These people will go mostly unnoticed since they were living on the edge anyway, but overall crime will go up in Virgina because some greedy pickle pounding lawyer named Albo used the power of his position to enrich himself.

See how lawyers ruin lives and impoverish and endanger society? They should all be shot for the sake of the rest of us.

125 posted on 06/27/2007 12:46:27 PM PDT by monday
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
I know quite a few folks that make that drive......

Had a friend that worked the same place I did in T-town....Had opening in B'ville..which was 38 miles closer for me...and closer as the crow flies for him...but took him like 1.5 hrs more.

I-44 is just a nearly a "straight fast shot" for him to T-town. He still works in T-town...I work in B'ville.

126 posted on 06/27/2007 12:48:10 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Political Correctness...is Intellectual Fascism)
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To: All

Good Grief. To hear all you chest thumpers, there isn’t a highway in the land that isn’t traveled at under 99MPH and every one of you own a vehicle that can do it safely in fact more safe than at 20mph as it soars through the air like superman and because your driving abilities are so amazing...... It’s a miracle! All in one forum, too!


127 posted on 06/27/2007 12:51:31 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Triggerhippie; Hi Heels

You two must be the kind of nervous Nellies you find driving down the middle lane of a freeway doing the limit while everyone else on the road passes you on both sides going 20 mph faster. 85 mph on a divided highway - what are you going to hit that isn’t moving in the same direction at a similar speed?


128 posted on 06/27/2007 12:52:09 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: bad company

Virginia was the first state I got a speeding ticket in. Good thing I did not have to pay those prices. Just for info, I have had four in my life. I think one was a “going through stop sign” and one I went to court to get rid of (Maryland).


129 posted on 06/27/2007 12:52:26 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: new cruelty

Yes, it’s true that there is some shifty things going on here behind the scenes, but the fact remains that in Virginia (and most places I’ve been) traffic laws are utterly ignored.

Besides being dangerous to my health and safety, people that break traffic laws are not fully internalizing the costs of their behavior; rather, I am forced to subsidize their reckless behavior, either through higher insurance premiums, more traffic enforcement, or through government medical programs that pay the hospital care of people who are injured as a result of their behavior.

So despite its questionable beginnings, this capitalist is all in favor of internalizing costs. This takes a step towards that.


130 posted on 06/27/2007 12:52:28 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: bad company
It’s sad when the only reason for enforcing a law is to enhance revenue. It takes the job of the police to a commercial level and denigrates law enforcement in general.
131 posted on 06/27/2007 12:52:33 PM PDT by Taichi (Certe, toto, sentio nos in kansate non iam adesse)
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To: -YYZ-

Ping to 127


132 posted on 06/27/2007 12:55:16 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: Publius Valerius
I suspect that this has something to do with the truck traffic on 81, but dude, seriously: just don't break the law. Problem solved.

So you would accept any and every law invented in the various legislatures without question? Is there any limit to the amount of regulation you are willing to endure, or do you consider yourself to be a person who merely lives at the whim of the government? If they make the speed limit 25mph on all of the freeways, are you still going to argue that we should just shut up and follow the law?

One of the reasons I think we find ourselves in this extremely over-regulated situation is because not enough people bother to keep an eye on what the government is doing. New laws come pouring in every year, and many people just accept them, as if the people were made to serve the laws (and lawmakers) rather than the law to serve the people. In any society that wishes to remain as free as possible, every law that is proposed should be questioned. The concept of rule of law, at least in the American sense, was never meant as a protection for the government against the people - it was suppose to be a protection for the people against the government.
133 posted on 06/27/2007 12:57:39 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: Hi Heels

No, we just don’t think going a mere 15 mph over the speed limit is an extreme example of speeding which justifies fines running into the several thousands of dollars. You do?


134 posted on 06/27/2007 12:58:40 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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To: -YYZ-

No, I don’t. I think “mere 15 mph over the speed limit” is ridiculous. Either have a speed limit or don’t.


135 posted on 06/27/2007 1:00:25 PM PDT by Hi Heels (Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.)
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To: patton

good grief!


136 posted on 06/27/2007 1:01:18 PM PDT by leda (19yrs ... only 4,981yrs to go ;))
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To: bad company

BULLSH>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Clowns and communists - every last one of them.


137 posted on 06/27/2007 1:03:12 PM PDT by commonguymd (Move it to the right)
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To: fr_freak
So you would accept any and every law invented in the various legislatures without question? . . .If they make the speed limit 25mph on all of the freeways, are you still going to argue that we should just shut up and follow the law?

I think the political process provides an adequate remedy for such an example. I would certainly not have a problem voicing my displeasure at such a law, and frankly, I think a 65 mph speed limit is a bit slow in most places. But it's the law (at least in Virginia), and I can't go around driving whatever speed I think is acceptable just because I feel like it. That's madness.

138 posted on 06/27/2007 1:04:42 PM PDT by Publius Valerius
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To: Hi Heels

So you think 15 mph over the limit is such a severe crime as to justify multi-thousand dollar fines? Maybe jail time, too? How about confiscating the car and selling it? Is the concept of having a punishment commensurate with the offense foreign to you? And no, the vast majority of people would not consider 15 mph over the limit to be an egregious violation of the law.


139 posted on 06/27/2007 1:06:07 PM PDT by -YYZ- (Strong like bull, smart like ox.)
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