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Romney 'unlikely' choice of evangelicals
The Baptist Press ^ | 6/21/2007 | Rachel Waligorski

Posted on 06/25/2007 1:00:31 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691

Romney 'unlikely' choice of evangelicals

Posted on Jun 21, 2007 | by Rachel Waligorski KANSAS CITY, Mo. (BP)--The "overarching and primary concern" why evangelicals likely will not vote for a Mormon for president is the Mormon claim to be the only true Christian church, a Southern Baptist seminary president said during the International Society of Christian Apologetics' annual meeting in Kansas City, Mo.

If Mormons were to call themselves "a new religious movement," that would be one thing, said R. Philip Roberts, president of Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, which hosted the June 1-2 meeting.

"But I have a very difficult time with the perspective [the Mormon church holds] that, 'We are the true expression of Christianity and all other forms of it are wrong and false and apostasy and heresy,'" Roberts said, paraphrasing the doctrine of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Roberts, who led a breakout session titled "Mitt Romney: Should Evangelicals Vote for a Mormon President?" during the June 1-2 meeting, is one of Southern Baptists' leading experts on Mormonism and author of a book on the church, "Mormonism Unmasked."

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To: AzaleaCity5691

Looks like a lot of people on this thread think Hillary, Obama and Edwards have higher principles than Romney. Very interesting.


21 posted on 06/25/2007 1:18:56 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Voting for Roy Moore is like voting for Romney...

Is Roy Moore a Republican presidential nominee?

22 posted on 06/25/2007 1:19:50 PM PDT by XR7
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To: AzaleaCity5691

I’m looking at the list of leading Republican candidates, and Romney is better than all of them possibly except one.

I don’t like Mormon ideology, but I would definitely consider voting for him. I won’t vote for Giuliani, McCain.


23 posted on 06/25/2007 1:20:05 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Parley Baer
Looks like a lot of people on this thread think Hillary, Obama and Edwards have higher principles than Romney.

Name one.

24 posted on 06/25/2007 1:20:41 PM PDT by XR7
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To: Parley Baer
Looks like a lot of people on this thread think Hillary, Obama and Edwards have higher principles than Romney.

That's a ridiculous and illogical conclusion.
25 posted on 06/25/2007 1:22:04 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: Parley Baer
Looks like a lot of people on this thread think Hillary, Obama and Edwards have higher principles than Romney.

That's a ridiculous and illogical conclusion.
26 posted on 06/25/2007 1:22:46 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: Always Right

If Romney personality as a phony politician that people don’t care for. It has nothing to do with his Mormonism. People don’t trust him.


If her had been a solid, unwavering person of principle for his entire career, then far fewer would worry that his next flip would be something unpleasant regarding Mormonism.

And it’s easy to imagine the October 2008 three part Time Magazine cover series “Mormonism in America.” Right or wrong, discomfort with Mormonism would shift several percent of the electorate into the other party’s column.


27 posted on 06/25/2007 1:23:53 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them, I won't chip away at them" -Mitt Romney)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
I know many evangelicals who are supporting Romney. They are smart enough to understand doing so is not an endorsement of LDS.
28 posted on 06/25/2007 1:28:12 PM PDT by elizabetty (Perpetual Candidate using campaign donations for your salary - Its a good gig if you can get it.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

If Mormonism is the only “problem” that Mitt has ,then he would be a stellar candidate.

Mitt lacks credibility to me.


29 posted on 06/25/2007 1:29:31 PM PDT by Kuksool
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To: Always Right
It has nothing to do with his Mormonism. People don’t trust him.

Trust him or not. . .like his hair - or not; believe there are a great many people who take issue with his Faith.

So. . .they can excite themselves witih a thrice married or twice married or whatever candidate who gives lip service to a Christian Faith. . .talks the talk but does not walk the walk. . .

Or they can choose to vote for a man who in fact; by all demonstration, walks his 'talk'; and who lives by what could only be described as an exemplar of Christian and/or 'family values'.

The irony of choice here; and the angst of analysis amongst Christians is rediculoous and torturous. . .and politically destructive.

30 posted on 06/25/2007 1:32:31 PM PDT by cricket
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To: AzaleaCity5691

People keep trying to tell me that I won’t vote for a mormon. I guess thats all they’ve got.

He’s not the most outspokenly conservative of the lot, so my preference is going to be Hunter/Thompson. So if he wants my vote, thats his target. He’s got to be more Hunter than Hunter, and more Thompson than Thompson.

Of course, Hunter was Hunter when being Hunter wasn’t cool. Er, or something like that. So Romney will always have that problem, after running for office in a state where he had to downplay or over-explain or over-nuance his conservative beliefs, to now have to speak boldly or be lost in Thompson’s wake. Or, Hunter, if lightning strikes and he should ever get enough momentum to ever have a wake.

Thats his problem with evangelicals, which is to say, with conservatives in general. But if he overcomes it, and is the nominee, I’d pull the lever for him gladly. I’ll be more glad if its Hunter/Thompson, but if its Romney I’m still there. Next to anyone on the Dem side of the line, Romney is a giant.


31 posted on 06/25/2007 1:32:53 PM PDT by marron
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Moore does not believe in Dominionism. That’s slander to say that.


32 posted on 06/25/2007 1:35:52 PM PDT by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: ElRushbo

“Romney is a class act and has my vote”

Which Romney are we talking about? Today’s Romney or the one that adopted all those liberal positions to get elected governor of Massachussetts? If you can change your attitude about abortion as easily as taking off your shirt I don’t care what you say now. Why in the world would anybody believe him? If I was going to vote for a huckster from Mass why wouldn’t I vote for a first-class one like Kerry or Kennedy?

Romney’s success entirely depends on all of us having short memories and being infinitely forgiving.

Ok Mitt, I forgive you for your former position on abortion and gun control but, just in case you backslide when its expedient...I want you to do it as a private citizen.


33 posted on 06/25/2007 1:37:13 PM PDT by Belasarius (Yet man is born unto trouble, as the sparks fly upward. Job 5:2-7)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Apocalyptic president?
34 posted on 06/25/2007 1:39:48 PM PDT by TheDon (The DemocRAT party is the party of TREASON! Overthrow the terrorist's congress!)
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To: cricket

I take issue with his faith because well, I know what it is like to be a non-evangelical in Alabama, which is similar to being a non-Mormon in Utah. Granted, I live in a city that is primarily high church, which the largest white denomination being Catholicism, but the flip side of this, is that our area has often found itself on one side, with the rest of the state on the other.

And it’s not as bad here, because the Baptists are divided by race, and white baptists don’t constitute a majority of the population. In Utah, Mormons are something like 70% of the population, and with the exception of the ski resorts and Salt Lake City, it’s the Mormon way or the highway, and the problem is, in Utah, the only way people show their dissatisfaction with Mormon domination is by voting for Democrats, some of them really liberal.

I don’t want this foisted on the rest of the country. Mitt is going to have a more Mormon staff than any other Presidential candidate, just like Clinton had alot of people from Arkansas, Carter from Georgia, Bush from Texas and Reagan from California. And the thing is, because these Mormons will make up the volunteer corps of the campaign, should he become President, they become the patronage workers. Anyone with half of a knowledge of politics understands this point, and this is why there will be such opposition to Romney, because in honesty, no one outside of Utah wants a Mormon run government, because anyone who has been to Utah has seen what that has resulted in. As I recall, they arrested people at the Olympics for drinking.

I also honestly have never liked business trips to Salt Lake City because you can tell who is Mormon, and who is not, and you can tell a difference in the way they operate.

And this whole idea of a Mormon prophecy where one of theirs becomes president just as “America is about to fall”......it’s political suicide. And that’s the way I see it.


35 posted on 06/25/2007 1:40:56 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: Parley Baer
Looks like a lot of people on this thread think Hillary, Obama and Edwards have higher principles than Romney. Very interesting.

It looks like the "If you don't vote for my candidate you are for Hillary!" line has moved from the Rudybots to the Romneybots.

36 posted on 06/25/2007 1:48:11 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: The Ghost of FReepers Past

Ok, it is my opinion that he believes in dominionism.

And I will state that my opinion constitutes fact in my eyes. I have watched the career of Moore for 15 years. Moore is the political descendant of the 1920’s Ku Klux Klan, and of the Bibb Graves-Hugo Black way of governing the state. The people who voted for Moore, were the people whose political ancestors voted for Hoover in 1928 during straight ticket one party days, entirely because Smith was Catholic. Smith’s margin of victory statewide came in our county.

Moore is a lackey of trial lawyers and more than that, several former supporters of his actually refused to support him in 2006 precisely because he believed in “dominionism”. But thanks to the way primary elections go in this state, he got crushed, and honestly, the only primary I think he can win anymore is for maybe a state senate seat.....but this is not about Roy Moore, he is a has been, this is about Romney, a man whose nomination could cost us the ability to appoint Stevens replacement.


37 posted on 06/25/2007 1:51:42 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691
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To: AzaleaCity5691

The Baptists get it wrong again. Go figure. Maybe someday they will become “real” Christians...la


38 posted on 06/25/2007 1:54:34 PM PDT by TheSuaveOne
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To: TheSuaveOne
"The Baptists get it wrong again."

How so?

"Maybe someday they will become “real” Christians...la"

Like Mormons, right?

39 posted on 06/25/2007 1:57:26 PM PDT by Enosh (†)
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To: Rodney King; Parley Baer
It looks like the "If you don't vote for my candidate you are for Hillary!" line has moved from the Rudybots to the Romneybots.

It reeks of desperation, no matter where it comes from.

40 posted on 06/25/2007 2:01:36 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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