Posted on 06/24/2007 8:12:23 PM PDT by nj26
At first glance, Rudolph W. Giuliani should be an appealing presidential candidate for observant Roman Catholics. The grandchild of Italian immigrants, Mr. Giuliani went to Catholic schools, considered joining the priesthood, and as mayor of New York battled a museum that exhibited a painting of the Virgin Mary adorned in elephant dung.
But church leaders say they are frustrated by prominent Catholic politicians like Mr. Giuliani who argue that while they are personally opposed to abortion, they do not want to impose their beliefs on others.
One American bishop, Thomas J. Tobin of Providence, R.I., recently wrote a caustic column for his Catholic newspaper calling Mr. Giulianis position pathetic, confusing and hypocritical. Other bishops said that they would not criticize a candidate by name but would not hesitate to declare Mr. Giulianis stance contrary to Catholic teaching...
Archbishop John J. Myers of Newark said: I think hes being illogical, as are all of those who take the stand that Im personally opposed to abortion but this is my public responsibility to permit it. To violate human life is always and everywhere wrong. In fact, we dont think its a matter of church teaching, but a matter of the way God made the world, and it applies to everyone.
The presidential campaign of John Kerry, a Democrat, suffered in 2004 when about a dozen of the nations more than 200 bishops declared that they would deny him communion because of his abortion stance...
But some American bishops who favored denying communion said that recent comments by the pope would bolster their approach. Pope Benedict XVI told reporters last month that Catholic legislators in Mexico who had recently voted to allow abortion had effectively excommunicated themselves from the church.
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That being said, I also think the Church is venturing too far into politics, moving beyond obvious moral issues (e.g. pro-life v. pro-abortion) and toward legislating its opinion (e.g. lobbying for the amnesty bill.)
More reason to say... Run Fred, Run!
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>>>Rudolph W. Giuliani should be an appealing presidential candidate for observant Roman Catholics. <<<<
Humor of the day.
I wonder what the Pope thinks of those pro-abortion freaks.
No news there.
We already know they’re all going to hell.
I found it amusing that this article and “Giuliani leads among Catholic Republicans” are both running at the same time.
Propaganda at it’s finest :)
I disagree with Rudy on abortion, but the Catholic Church is bs. Thats why I left my mother’s faith and adopted my father’s faith and became a Protestant.
I just assumed that Giuliani was not a practicing Catholic, like most politicians in Italy.
Can Rudolph Guiliani receive communion? Is he married to his third wife, Judy, in the church? I doubt it.
No, he isn’t.
Hilary Clinton is an irreligious left winger. The NYT HATES the Catholic Church. But they will have you and the Church damning Giuliani (or any other GOP candidate) to Hell while Hilary piously visits Bible schools. And you're all worrying about Giuliani's marital status and morality. But no one will dare point out what an abomination is St. Hilary.
All the kings horses and all the kings men couldn’t....
You realize that you abandoned the true faith, right?
That being said, I also think the Church is venturing too far into politics, moving beyond obvious moral issues (e.g. pro-life v. pro-abortion) and toward legislating its opinion (e.g. lobbying for the amnesty bill.)
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Thats what they said about slavery too!
Soo, now, NYT’s is a reliable source for news and commentaries? Still voting for Rudy.
>>>>But no one will dare point out what an abomination is St. Hilary.
We sure do. Freepers take the lead on that. That is why Hillary sent this plane to silence Doug.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1844729/posts
FR EXCLUSIVE: Did Hillary Try to Silence Doug from Upland (plane crash in Upland)
I’m confused - we just read of a poll either today or yesterday that indicated that Catholics were flocking too him...
Is it faith in a church or is it faith in Jesus that saves us?
Pick a source, any source:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=GiulianiTruthFile
GiulianiTruthFile
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