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To: Atlantic Bridge

“Why have the US engaged into the the European war theatre then anyway? “

To defeat Nazi Germany. They didn’t even have the means to liberate all of Europe and defeat Russia as well. That doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t have even bothered to liberate Western Europe and defeat the Nazi regime.

“Were the Brits and the French sympathetic enough to save them from tyranny, but the Poles were not?”

Like I said, if you can think of a way to remove the red army from eastern europe via diplomacy, I’m all ears. Otherwise the only way to do so would be to wage war on the Soviet Union, while Germany was in chaos and the Empire of Japan was still at large. Where would the western allies get the extra troops from (not to mention public support for such an action)? Were they to redeploy them from SE Asia, troops that were already entrenched in battle with the Japanese? How many would it take to defeat the Soveit Union, which spans over half the globe. Driving the Soviets out of Eastern Europe using nukes isn’t practical. Besides, Yalta happened in Feb of ‘45, and the trinity test hadn’t even occured yet.

” If this kind of resistance would have never happened, the D-day and the allied victory would not have been possible in 1944.”

The Germans were preparing to defend Pas de Calais from the impending allied invasion of mainland Europe. It was this deception, combined with their failures on the eastern front, that made the invasion possible. The troops that were deployed to suppress the Warsaw uprising, I imagine that they would have been deployed on the eastern front against the Russians (90% of German war casulties occured on the eastern front). Where did you find that these troops would be deployed not only to the western front, but to repell the real invasion at Normandy? If I were trying to make your arguement, I would cite Poland’s role in breaking the ‘unbreakable’ Enigma as being essential for a successful invasion of mainland Europe. You could argue that without these efforts by the Poles, an invasion would not have been possible in ‘44. But that still doesn’t mean that the U.S. betrayed Poland, or any other Eastern European nation, in any way, shape, or form.

“Since America and the UK always concillated the conception of being members of the “western civilized family” to the Poles and declared alliances with them, it was indeed a shame- and reckless betrayal to leave them with a shrug of the shoulders in Stalin’s little shop of horrors.”

What declared alliance did the U.S. have with Poland during the war? Do you believe that the U.S. had defensive pacts with any European nations at the outbreak of war? And if so, what defensive packs/alliances are you referring to?


72 posted on 06/28/2007 5:43:16 PM PDT by death2tyrants
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To: death2tyrants

the poles broke enigma ?


74 posted on 06/28/2007 11:52:48 PM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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To: death2tyrants

The US did betray Poland. Roosevelt came out with a proposal to divide Poland first. You can argue that Stalin would do it anyway but this initiative says a lot. Another reason is that the US recognized illegal communist government of Poland and ignored legal one on exile in London.


75 posted on 06/29/2007 12:15:07 AM PDT by Lukasz
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