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People's Tenor Pits the Sniffles Against the Sniffs (DFU and FR Mention!)
The New York Times ^ | June 24, 2007 | DANIEL J. WAKIN

Posted on 06/24/2007 3:42:55 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod

A 36-YEAR-OLD dentally challenged cellphone salesman wins a nationally televised talent contest in Britain, and suddenly, all sorts of questions are raised about the role of classical music in our world.

That is because the winner, Paul Potts, from Wales, triumphed with a rendition of “Nessun dorma,” the tenor aria from Puccini’s “Turandot,” at a contest with the trappings and audience — seemingly — of the mass entertainment world.

By the standards of music critics who ply their trade in opera houses and concert halls, it wasn’t a particularly earth-shaking performance.

“Mr. Potts is the sort of bog-standard tenor to be found in any amateur opera company in any corner of the country,” wrote Philip Hensher in The Independent of London. “His tuning was all over the place; his voice sounded strained and uncontrolled; his phrasing was stubby and lumpy; he made a constipated approximation only of the fluid sound of the Italianate tenor....”

On the blogs, many comments seemed to reflect resentment that the “snobs” of the opera world would look down on their swoon for Mr. Potts. On freerepublic.com, a conservative forum, dougfromupland addressed “all you opera snobs.”

“He may not be the greatest opera singer. But we who don’t know dip about opera like him and can’t wait to see him perform. We know what uplifts us and makes us feel good. Go away, snobs.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Free Republic; News/Current Events
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To: Owen
“Yes, there are problems and errors, but how can you disapprove of someone or something that is going to expose so many people to something they might never have embraced, or even encountered, otherwise?”

A good analogy is to the Blues Brothers. Akroyd and Belushi were good but not great singers (the rest of the band was the real deal), but they helped introduce me to Wilson Pickett, Otis Redding, Aretha Franklin, even Ray Charles. The Commitments served a similar function for folks a little younger than I.

61 posted on 06/24/2007 8:59:46 AM PDT by ReignOfError (`)
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To: sandyeggo

Paul Potts ping...


62 posted on 06/24/2007 9:07:22 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Fr. V. R. Capodanno, Lt, USN, Catholic Chaplain. 3rd/5th, 1st Marine Div., FMF. MOH, posthumously.)
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To: Syncro

That is a representation of a real photo that was taken in 1993. Fabio really did chase her around the room and pick her up. The witch promised, but she never sent it to Peter Paul.

It is explained here - http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZY2b3Db3dGE


63 posted on 06/24/2007 9:12:45 AM PDT by doug from upland (Stopping Hillary should be a FreeRepublic Manhattan Project)
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To: Hardastarboard
Opera ia a lot of things, from highbrow to lowbrow. Much of it was done as entertainment for the commom man. Over the years it kind of mutated ito a high brow art form. Mozarts "The Magic Flute" and Johann Strauss's Der Fledermaus Were certainly lowbrow comedy. The equivelent of this summers film "knocked up" just a bit of light fun.

I think much of why opera remains unaccesable to most americans is the language barrier. one of the funniest things I ever heard was an english version of Der Fledermaus.

From memory: Frosch the drunken jailer is summoned by his deputy in the jail tower.

(deputy) Heir Director! there a ladys aproaching.
(Frosch) Ladies?
(deputy) Yes, Ladies down below.
(Frosch) Tell me, how do the ladies look...down below?
(deputy) "naughty naughty heir director!"

;0)

64 posted on 06/24/2007 9:30:38 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BlessedBeGod

“. The thrill of recognition, one can speculate, may have triggered the enthusiasm.’

Inasmuch as I, like most other Americans, don’t know Turandot from touringdot.com, there was something other than recognition at work. By the same token, I am a big fame of Wagnerian opera who often hears Ride of the Valkyries played in various TV venues, the recognition of which produces no thrill, and certainly no tears as Potts does.

Congrats on your making the Times, Doug.


65 posted on 06/24/2007 9:31:29 AM PDT by gcruse
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To: Hardastarboard

“Opera started out as a yard sport for Italian lunatics in the 15th Century.”

Nothing has changed, the bellowers or those that endure it.


66 posted on 06/24/2007 9:31:54 AM PDT by dalereed
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To: mylife

Nice spelling! L0L

“fanfare for the commom man” L0L


67 posted on 06/24/2007 9:40:49 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: BlessedBeGod
“A 36-YEAR-OLD dentally challenged cellphone salesman...”

The New York Times ^ | June 24, 2007 | DANIEL J. WAKIN

In each edition, the snobbish, elitist, leftist NYTs and it’s Marxist, progressive, Move on.Org worshiping propagandists spew their distaste for ordinary people, not acknowledging that it has been ordinary people doing extraordinary things who built and protected this country.

“Ordinary Americans” would not buy rotted food for their tables; they are far too smart for that, and they don’t buy the New York Times for similar reasons.

68 posted on 06/24/2007 9:46:40 AM PDT by billhilly (My former tag line.)
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To: BlessedBeGod

You know they are monitoring things pretty closely when they start reading singing threads.


69 posted on 06/24/2007 9:52:39 AM PDT by PAR35
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To: doug from upland
Why did the opera snobs have to poo poo the story?

Partly because Brit Hume made it a point to praise YouTube. Not for the silly things there and political stuff, but for the video of that guy singing that he never would have saw without youtube.

Brit played the entire video at the end of his show in place of the normal joke stuff he shows.

70 posted on 06/24/2007 10:07:39 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: BlessedBeGod; All
Perhaps my favorite Aria "Ebben ne Andro Lotana" from Alfred Catalini's opera "La Wally" I am not thrilled with this version but its very compelling
71 posted on 06/24/2007 10:14:48 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
I have never been to Italy, but I have heard it told that opera is popular with all strata of society. Wonder if that's right.

I had to discover Minnie Pearl, Grandpa Jones and all them on my own. Even though I grew up in East Tenn, my parents had moved beyond that when I was a boy. We had classical music, for which I am grateful.

No opera, but I discovered a bit of that on my own as well through an Austrian family I was friendly with.

72 posted on 06/24/2007 10:20:28 AM PDT by don-o (“I don`t expect politicians to solve anyone's problems.The world owes us nothing” Bob Dylan)
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To: Syncro

“Hilliary: That’s Not Butter!”

If you think its butter, but its snot...


73 posted on 06/24/2007 10:22:47 AM PDT by Beagle8U (FreeRepublic -- One stop shopping ....... Its the Conservative Super Walmart for news .)
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To: don-o
Opera isn't particularly snooty. There is a reason that they called “The Grand old Opery” what they did.

Opera was just entertainment for the masses.

As I posted earlier up thread, it is made some what inaccessible by language barriers. Most people, when exposed to a version in their native tongue respond to the timeless themes in opera. I tend to prefer symphony's for this reason. There are no words its just pure sound, invoking imagination

I have never been to and opera but can say that I have seen many symphonys and they are well attended by people in shorts and casual clothing. regular "folks"

74 posted on 06/24/2007 11:07:51 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Savage Beast

I hear you, but let me also remind you that in Wagner’s time, music like his was considered screeching and decadent. Not defending some of the crap that passes for classical music today, but the new is always hard to digest.

All of this being said, I regret that people don’t possess enough musical knowledge to hear that this “People’s Tenor” is really bad.


75 posted on 06/24/2007 12:55:32 PM PDT by aristotleman (I actually hate philosophy >>this is my real name)
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To: All
Violin
76 posted on 06/24/2007 12:56:26 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: All

Puccini’s “Il Triticco” is on KERA in dallas now.


77 posted on 06/24/2007 1:06:57 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: All
This is a poor recording but here are the words to Nessum Dorma
78 posted on 06/24/2007 2:04:25 PM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: doug from upland

You called me a snob? LOL


79 posted on 06/24/2007 2:06:02 PM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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To: doug from upland

Great video! Love your work at Youtube!

If only ALL the people could see Hillary Rodham
for the EVIL person she is. Even the part in your video
of her talking and smirking had me cringing!!


80 posted on 06/24/2007 2:06:03 PM PDT by Joy Angela (Jan. 2009 --- Clinton Inauguration --- Beginning of the End!)
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