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To: Greg F

“Joseph Smith’s denial in a sermon that he was a polygamist (a lie) was in History of the Church, volume 6.”

Would you mind providing a quote, with a date? I’m afraid I’ve misplaced my sixth volume of the History of the Church. I suspect there’s a disconnect in the verbiage, or the time stamp.

~”The reality is the prophecy didn’t come true.”~

See, that’s the problem. It was a commandment to go on a mission. It was not a prophecy that the man would go on a mission. The exact verse:

“Verily thus saith the Lord: It is wisdom in my servant David W. Patten, that he settle up all his business as soon as he possibly can, and make a disposition of his merchandise, that he may perform a mission unto me next spring, in company with others, even twelve including himself, to testify of my name and bear glad tidings unto all the world.”

Why did God command Patten to go on a mission He knew he wouldn’t fulfill? I don’t know. You can ask Him when you see Him.

~”Finally, the Mormon’s believe in multiple Gods. This contradicts the entire Bible...”~

We do not. We believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. If there are others out there in the vastness of the cosmos, it doesn’t matter to us; such are not our Father, and so are not worshiped.

We do believe that man has the -potential- to become like God, and that this life is a trial to judge our worthiness to do so. We believe that we are literally children of God, and, just as your child has the potential to become like you, we each have the potential to become like God, although we are in an embryonic phase of that development.

Incidentally, this clarifies the verses you quoted. In some sense, we are each already gods, in that we are in an embryonic form of what God is. Verses 6 and 7 fit in with this nicely: “I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes.”


383 posted on 06/24/2007 10:08:47 PM PDT by tantiboh
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To: tantiboh

~”Finally, the Mormon’s believe in multiple Gods. This contradicts the entire Bible...”~

We do not. We believe in God the Father, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost. If there are others out there in the vastness of the cosmos, it doesn’t matter to us; such are not our Father, and so are not worshiped.

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Is Father, Jesus Christ and Holy Ghost 1 God? No, to the Mormon they are not 1 God but multiple Gods. So your statement that you do not believe in multiple Gods is something you know to be false. Further, those who have died can be Gods. Have there been no “Gods” (i.e. good Mormons) in all of Mormon history? If you believe there have been Mormons in the past that became Gods then you are not being honest in saying that you do not believe in multiple Gods. This is a central issue and I think it could be a salvation issue. The “God” you worship was created, not the creator of the Universe, not “God,” but a created being in your theology. This is not God.


394 posted on 06/25/2007 3:13:48 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: tantiboh

http://www.boap.org/LDS/History/History_of_the_Church/Vol_VI

Do a find for: “Address of the Prophet—His Testimony Against the Dissenters at Nauvoo.”

I do not believe that you are unable to find your own Church writings, so you are simply trying to avoid grappling with the fact that Joseph Smith showed himself to be a liar.


395 posted on 06/25/2007 3:45:59 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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