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Dad Says Teacher Gave A Bad Lesson By Showing Bootleg Version Of 'Shrek' Film To 5th-Graders
AP/Starpulse ^ | June 22, 2007 | JIM FITZGERALD

Posted on 06/23/2007 4:01:45 AM PDT by lowbridge

PEEKSKILL, N.Y. (AP) - He doesn't want to be an ogre about it, but the father of a fifth-grader thinks teachers are wasting time when they show movies in class - and if the film is a bootleg, he says, ''That's a really terrible lesson.''

Tim Trewhella, 46, said his 10-year-old daughter reported that her class watched the animated movie ''Shrek the Third'' on Tuesday and recognized it as the fairy-tale hit still showing in theaters.

''A friend hooked me up with it,'' teacher Lovell Quiroz said, according to the girl.

Peekskill schools Superintendent Judith Johnson issued a statement saying administrative approval is required before a video is shown in elementary school and ''if a pirated video was shown it is in violation of district policy.'' An investigation was under way, the statement said.

An attempt to meet with Quiroz at the school was foiled by a security guard who ordered a reporter off school property.

The Motion Picture Association of America says major American movie studios lost $6.1 billion to piracy in 2005, 20 percent of that in the U.S.

''I don't want to see the guy hung for this,'' Trewhella said. ''I would just like him to apologize.''

Trewhella also says that what really bothers him is how often teachers show non-educational videos in class, bootleg or not.

''I run a candy and toy store,'' said Trewhella. ''I completely understand about entertaining kids. But it has its time and place.''

He said going public ''might be making this unpleasant for the school district. But as a taxpayer and a parent, I don't want my dollars going for movies. It's the teacher's job to make the educational stuff interesting.''


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bootleg; education; hookup; ny; shrek
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To: lowbridge
If I had my way, I would have taken just the basics: Science, English, math, and history, and went home. (and would have scheduled my first class sometime later in the day instead of somewhere around 8am). But no, the damn school schedule forced me to get up in an ungodly hour in the morning five days a week and then stay there in the school building much longer than I wanted to or needed to.

I know what you mean. If I had my way I would show up to work around noon. Then I would bail for lunch, come back around 1500 (3:00 pm), surf the net for about an hour and punch out of there at about 16:00 - 17:00 (4 - 5 pm).

Doesn’t real life suck?

61 posted on 06/23/2007 8:09:42 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: nyyankeefan

See my post #59


62 posted on 06/23/2007 8:10:55 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: tioga

It’s not the movie watching...it’s the movie stealing...by an adult who’s supposed to know better than to teach young minds that it’s okay to do so.


63 posted on 06/23/2007 8:12:19 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: GOPPachyderm
Happy Feet as an educational movie? Well, I guess it is good preparation for An Inconvenient Truth.

That's exactly what it is. 'An Inconvient Truth' Kids version. One of those movies that had me going, 'if I want to go somewhere to get preached at for two hours, I'll go to church.'

64 posted on 06/23/2007 8:13:11 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: tioga

Where did YOU read it was an end-of-year event? Are you actually searching for (okay) excuses for this teacher’s behavior?


65 posted on 06/23/2007 8:15:28 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: SteveMcKing
Please...please tell me you do not have children, and are in no position to pass your values on to any.

America was founded on personal responsibilities...we all have a responsibility to do the right thing and tell temptation to do wrong to take a hike.

66 posted on 06/23/2007 8:17:35 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: dfwgator; GOPPachyderm

I agree. It was the movie on a flight home for me. What a crock. I actually spoke out loud at certain points, too.


67 posted on 06/23/2007 8:19:14 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: NordP

I used the word “if” this was and end-of-year treat. I see nothing wrong with purchasing a video to use in the classroom for that purpose. I am not an ogre after all. LOL Folks need to lighten up.

Stealing a bootleg copy would be wrong, no doubt at all. The whole issue of downloading movies and music reeks of the same issues as illegal immigration. Since you can’t police it just make it legal. I buy my movies, unless I rent them. I don’t steal, and I do not defend those that do.


68 posted on 06/23/2007 8:21:38 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: Manic_Episode

I teach my kids that the govt is ass backwards, that Govt says that making copies is stealing and punishable, but that murdering babies is just fine.


You teach your kids the gubmint is always wrong and that these two things are related?


69 posted on 06/23/2007 8:22:42 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: NordP
Well you could have just taken off the earphones and read the fluffy in-flight magazine.
70 posted on 06/23/2007 8:24:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: NordP

I am not a teacher. When I grew up nothing was better than a field trip and a picnic at the end of the school year. We usually did both. I stand by my remark that I see nothing wrong with a legally purchased appropriate video being shown in a classroom for an end-of-year treat. Kids are kids, let them have some fun.


71 posted on 06/23/2007 8:24:23 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: Grizzled Bear

Whats more, they didnt pay me to go to school! :-)


72 posted on 06/23/2007 8:24:40 AM PDT by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democratic Party." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: lowbridge
Let me get this straight.

1. The teacher shows a film to young students for which he does not have permission.

2. It is a pirated copy that he got from a friend “who hooked him up”.

3. It was Shrek.

Why is this guy still teaching?

73 posted on 06/23/2007 8:26:52 AM PDT by Bob J (Rightalk.com...a conservative alternative to NPR! Check out nat synd "Rightalk with Terri and Lynn")
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To: lowbridge
The mistake here was the choice of the film. Instructional time is precious and valuable. Viewing a good film like reading a good book can be a very enriching experience. Because the teacher wanted to gratify the kids and get his own cheap reward by becoming their friend and hero, he chose a very popular and commercial film. A film that is easy accessible and if he does not show it to them, most will see sometime in the theater or on home video. What needs to be pointed out, this selfish act by this idiot teacher could have wrecked bonding experiences among parents and their children. I could manufacture a scenario where maybe a parent who did not have custody of their child was planning a special time to take the child to see this movie.

I think film can be an important part of the school curriculum, but real professional instructors would put planning and thought into choosing a film that could enlighten, inspire, and broaden and select afilm that is not as easily accessible as a Shrek film. This clown belongs in the cafeteria where could make decisions such as should I give them hamburgers on Monday and pizza on Tuesday or pizza on Monday and hamburgers on Tuesday.

74 posted on 06/23/2007 8:27:01 AM PDT by Biblebelter (I can't believe people still watch TV with the sound on.)
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To: tioga
Oh...I'm lightened up, but boiling the issue down, the article was about:

A teacher who showed kids a bootleg movie.

From that I gained: The teacher was wrong to show a stolen copy of a movie.

From that you gained: The teacher could have been treating the kids to an end-of-year event.

Do you see the difference? I'm not an ogre either. I just think I see the facts, and you see speculation.

75 posted on 06/23/2007 8:29:15 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: Bob J
Why is this guy still teaching?

Teacher's Union?

76 posted on 06/23/2007 8:29:39 AM PDT by lowbridge ("The mainstream media IS the Democratic Party." - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Yep. Could have. I heard some nice things about this movie...cute...great animation. We have a video production company, and I wanted to see them. Once I saw the obvious agenda being put on the screen, I am getting pretty sick of being so P.C. about life...thus, my reaction. -—Don’t worry...I wasn’t too loud ;-)


77 posted on 06/23/2007 8:31:37 AM PDT by NordP (The greatest gift God can give us is LIFE. The greatest gift man can give to another is FREEDOM.)
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To: NordP
I thought all the teachers were up in arms with how much information they have to cover in the school year, because we're testing our kids too much and they don't have time to give their students a well-rounded education???

Hmmm.....sounds like they've got extra time to me.

I was commenting on that portion of your post. The comments you posted had nothing to do with a bootlegged copy of a movie. Follow our dialogue back and you will find it.

Post 53.

78 posted on 06/23/2007 8:41:48 AM PDT by tioga (Fred Thompson for President.)
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To: lowbridge
"Shrek the Third"??

Great education for the children! Anyone else remember all the flickering 16 mm films we endured at school in days past: SCIENCE, HISTORY, GEOGRAPHY? time for the kids to learn something in school. Besides, the kids probably already saw the bootleg of Shrek on the net.

79 posted on 06/23/2007 8:46:45 AM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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To: Biblebelter
What needs to be pointed out, this selfish act by this idiot teacher could have wrecked bonding experiences among parents and their children. I could manufacture a scenario where maybe a parent who did not have custody of their child was planning a special time to take the child to see this movie.

I suppose you could. But that's not the only famous kiddie movie in the movie houses. A good teacher could even have made a lesson out of this, by asking the students afterwards to consider and discuss about plot, dramatic moments, characters. Such a treatment might have made a second viewing of the film into an educational experience.

The really unredeemable thing here was for the teacher to do something (bootleg a copy) that had a student giggling "my teacher committed a crime."

80 posted on 06/23/2007 8:49:05 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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