Posted on 06/22/2007 10:49:14 AM PDT by pacelvi
No bio information on Joel [Richardson] is available due to "very specific Islamic death threats" after a Muslim he was "dialoguing with converted to Christianity." He was told that his "head would be cut off" and family killed. Similar wild threats (not from Muslims, but by members of a very large denomination) have been aimed at withChrist.org during our eleven years on the Internet. By God's grace, we're still here and will continue to publish as long as possible.Somuds like he is somewhere between Tim LaHaye and Harold Camping. IOW, confused, like all futurists.PS. Post-entry qualification. In his 1/23/2007 blog entry, Mr. Richardson reveals himself to be a "Post-Trib Premillenialist" AND "someone who in many ways considers myself to be a Catholic." Clearly, he is seriously confused regarding some fundamental doctrines of the Christian faith. Catholicism has been rigidly amillennial in its eschatology perspective for 1,700+ years. Given the torrid explosion of information over the Internet, oddities of this nature are bound to occur.
The Hexabeast’s number would be 29A. The Octabeast’s number is 1232.
“They have become mostly irrelevant due to the large infiltration of Muslims...don’t you think?”
Well don’t have time to find the passage but the countries that make up the beast are represented as animals (national symbols). If Revelations is correct, then the head of the beast is a lion, the symbol for Britain. The feet is a bear so Russia. Shoulders are a wolf so Germany. It sounds like the beast is the EU and the anti-christ himself may be part of the EU (revived empire and part of the eighth empire of the EU).
Turkey itself was democratic and islamic but recently has begun to shed democratic practice for the islamic law bit by bit. They also are playing with fire with Iran in cross border skurmishes with the Kurds. Don’t forget, Turkey would not allow us access to fly or route troops into Iraq.
Their is a harlot who sits on top of the beast that the beast itself destroys. The description of the harlots talks about her being dressed in robes of scarlet linens committing fornication with the kings of the earth and has the blood of the saints. This would lead me to believe the harlot is the Catholic church. The beast destroying it in one hour as mentioned in Revelations could fit considering the Catholic church has the GDP of a 2nd world country and in general fights for human rights. It also is guilty of many infractions against man such as selling trinkets to get into heaven for example, allowing pedophiles to get away with heinous crimes for centuries (until recently) and has global influence in politics.
“I have to agree that something will pull the U.S. out of their defense mode of Israel... There have been many in our gov’t who would love to see that happen in recent years. Bush had promised (before his first election) that he would declare Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. That got dropped like a hot rock.....and has never been mentioned again.”
We have stopped supporting Israel but supporting a two state solution. Israel followed our lead and got ‘peace makers’ instead of warriors. We see how well that is working out now don’t we? Israelis are waking up to the fact they are already standing on their own and wanting the ‘warriors’ back. Push comes to shove, Israel would use it’s Sampson Option and vaporize every enemy within 2,000 miles. They may still want out dollars and equipment but Israeli opinion is changing and I think for the wiser. They had best build further national civil and military defenese and elect the hawks. Even if we will want to support Israel, we have our own major troubles brewing such as revolution, nuclear terrorism, self-loating, apathetic morals etc. etc. etc.
I honestly do not understand why people are so fastinated with end of the world prophecy.
I honestly do not understand why someone who is not fascinated by end of the world prophecy would enter a thread about that very subject and then basically tell everyone how disinterested he is on the topic.
Thanks for the memo. Noted.”
He is interested period but doubting that the bible is accurate in prophecy. It is not the end of the world, nor does the bible say this. It is the end of a system where the elite using religion as cover dominate the globe and cause untold misery. That religion is Islam. To enlave and to serve allah for no real point or benefit of mankind. That is worth fighting for and those in our universe along with our species also share this fight.
“We can and will... Believe it!
Iran and possibly many other Islamic states will be turned to glass in a flash.”
Except when Iran uses nuclear terrorism and Hillary as POTUS doesn’t lift a finger. Bill didn’t do a whit about islamic takeover of the middle east, why would Hill do anything about global takeover of the world?
“And given the miracle we stop Iran, Then you have to deal with North Korea’s nukes, then you have to deal with Pakistans.”
Then you have to deal with the true puppeteers, China and Russia who created these Frankenstein monsters. Agreed with your other points but some of us will still be alive and we have some smart people here on the technology side we seem to harness just in time. Examples: Civil War - the gatlan gun. WWI - Air power and the tank. WWII - The atomic bomb. WWIII - ??? I can only imagine ???
—Generic Nostradamus Quatrain from
“The Guardian”
That was very good but it would be more convincing with more cowbell!
Dang!! Was he good or what!!!!
“Good point, one thing is for sure; none of us are going to get out of this alive.”
According to Revelelations 1/3 of mankind dies in the war with 200 million combatants. These are specific numbers and not symbolic. Also, the bible write John quotes another set of numbers to tell how many people die almost down to the person. The passage says that the blood of the war is as high as a horse shoulders and 2 furlongs in length. If you do the math and divide how many pints of blood in this equation, you get about 4 billion people. How many of us are here on earth at this stage? 7 billion? That would give you a strong hint as to when exactly WWIII will start. Christ said their would be wars and reports of wars but the end isn’t yet. Global news, global reports of lots of regional and local skirmishes.
Look at North Korea around 2009 when China cannot fund it’s food supply for the true beginnings of WWIII. The only thing holding Kim back from nuking the South and probably conquering it is China feeding them and the US catering to them. Kim lives in palaces and keeps his country under his thumb. Do you think the 2 million North Korean army will still work for him without food? What do you think Kim will do with that army? Let them all revolt or use it? Why would China not be able to give them food? A global depression is on it’s way: http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Global_Economy/IF22Dj02.html . Also note depression was one THE catalyst for the rise of Adolph Hitler and the 3rd Reich. War is a good remedy for economic depression. It gives a national group to blame such as the Jews to blow up while propping back up the economy through cranking up the military machine.
Except when Iran uses nuclear terrorism and Hillary as POTUS doesn’t lift a finger. Bill didn’t do a whit about islamic takeover of the middle east, why would Hill do anything about global takeover of the world?
Very true,,,BUT, I just can not see the American people being so stupid as to elect the witch or any of the weak knees that are running.
Fred Thompson or Hunter of California I think can take care of the Islamic idiots in a way they’ll never forget.
“The British Empire didn’t conquer and destroy the Caliphate. Thus the 8th Empire is a revival of the 7th Empire.. Jesus destroys the 8th.”
And note that Revelations says those “faithful to Him” meaning those of us in the West, specifically those calling themselves Christian. That would by and large mean America, Aussies, Canadians, etc. etc. But England goes into the beast and this is happening considering that the Universities just boycotted Israel, don’t defend themselves from the Iranians and consider George Bush more dangerous then Aljmahajeed. Britain may itself not attack American but anti-semitism and islamism (the militant type) has certainly began to influence much of it’s policy towards approval of destructive Western policy of freedom (that is what Christianity is about after all when you boil it all down).
“Mohammed claimed to be a Prophet of the Jewish God. The Jews laughed at him.”
The irony is unbelievable.
“No bio information on Joel [Richardson] is available due to “very specific Islamic death threats” after a Muslim he was “dialoguing with converted to Christianity.” He was told that his “head would be cut off” and family killed. Similar wild threats (not from Muslims, but by members of a very large denomination) have been aimed at withChrist.org during our eleven years on the Internet. By God’s grace, we’re still here and will continue to publish as long as possible.”
Hear is to looking forward to meeting you gentleman in the next life. I will shake your hands for your courage when I meet you, as you will be martyred first as saints in the name of Christ. I am sure I will be joining you in similar head-sawing fashion shortly afterwards. We will be hunted down like dogs but I will give them some taste of their hell that awaits them first, Christ permitting.
“Very true,,,BUT, I just can not see the American people being so stupid as to elect the witch or any of the weak knees that are running.
Fred Thompson or Hunter of California I think can take care of the Islamic idiots in a way they’ll never forget.”
Yeah I love Thompson but he will not win, doesnt know how to raise the dollars and that my friend is 90% of the equation nowadays in winning elections. Hillary has the most loot and is so frigging charming prior to elections, hell that Sporanos knock-off bit changed my feelings about her for half a second and I temporarily forgot they are traitors. The people don’t much like either the Dems or Rep but I think why Bush got elected. He was a better choice according to American just barely over Gore. Who would captivate the vote on the Rep side? Their is no legacy president and all the others are acting like Dems nowadays. People will also not be forgiving over the energy prices which they surely blame on Bush/Rep and the Iraq war also blamed on Bush/Rep. Americans are war fatigued and will want OUT and the pullout of the troops proposed now for spring of 08 is too close to change any minds of who was to blame. Hil is probably going to win and when she does, that is my cue to find a new temporary home beside America. She will do nothing when we are attacked by nuclear terrorism and that will be the true end of America as we know it for a good while.
Could you please add me to your PING list?
Disclaimer: I am a historic premiller.
She will do nothing when we are attacked by nuclear terrorism and that will be the true end of America as we know it for a good while.
Sheeeesh! That is a nightmare scene. You may be right too, and I will also be looking for somewhere to hang my hat til it all blows over. Sorry shame if it goes down like you predict.
I really believe if this happens the USA will be a third world dump in no time. I feel for the kids coming up the pike.
Wow! So now the Pope isn’t the anti-Christ but a Muslim? After centuries of defaming the Catholic Church and the Bishops of Rome, and since the Muslims are now all uppity, it’s now a Muslim! Incredible, all that vitriol for the Popes wasted.
>>>the False Prophet is a secondary prominent figure that will emerge in the last-days who will support the Antichrist.<<<
I am unsure who you referring to when you mention “Antichrist”, since there are many antichrists [1 John 2:18]. John goes on to define an antichrist in this manner:
“Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.” - 1 John 2:22
“And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.” - 1 John 4:3
“For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.” - 2 John 1:7
All muslims are antichrists because they believe that Jesus is only a prophet, not the Messiah.
All Jews are antichrists because they believe that Jesus is not the Messiah.
And all atheists are... well ... weird antichrists.
Now to the False Prophet. The first mention of a false prophet in the Revelation of Jesus Christ was in verse 16:13-14, which reads,
“And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.”
Then comes the bewildering next verse, 16:15, which reads:
“Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.”
Why in the world would that statement be there? Maybe to distract us from the next verse, 16:16, which reads,
“And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.”
Note the word “he”. Suddenly the dragon, beast and false prophet become a single “he”. Sound like Satan’s trinity is similar to God’s Trinity: they are one, as in:
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.” - 1 John 5:7
Summing up, maybe the beast, false prophet and the dragon is a single man who thinks he is God.
Interesting......
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