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To: Stultis; betty boop; Alamo-Girl
[.. Is my position clear yet?! ..]

You have been fairly clear all along.. Actually everyone is a Creationist.. The Universe was created.. by someone, something, somehow, someway, sometime.. Duuugh, Its HERE.. How it got here is the question.. How it WAS created is the question.. not "IF"..

358 posted on 06/25/2007 3:59:16 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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To: hosepipe; All
Actually everyone is a Creationist.. The Universe was created.. by someone, something, somehow, someway, sometime.. Duuugh, Its HERE.. How it got here is the question.. How it WAS created is the question.. not "IF"..

In a sense I think you're right when you make these statements; I would, however, not label various views of origins or theories of life's genesis as all suitable to the adjective "Creationist".

I commend you for stating the real debate question over again, and so simply: How this world and universe originated, and just what was the genesis of all that is, these are the questions of debate. I personally think the thread would prove more useful and stimulating if debaters actually exchanged viewpoints and evidence on this point. Other arguments really are turning out to be waste-of-bandwidth rabbit trails - circular, aimless wanderings, slingshot stones, wounded bunnies...but no meat to chew on come dinner time!

Thanks, hosepipe.

To restate:
How did life/the universe/everything originate?
What evidence do you have to support your position?
In what ways does your position influence your every observation,
and, conversely, in what ways do your observations influence your position?

415 posted on 06/26/2007 2:28:22 AM PDT by .30Carbine (My Redeemer is Faithful and True.)
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