Posted on 06/19/2007 3:13:48 PM PDT by StatenIsland
Mayor Michael Bloonberg has announced that he is leaving the Republican Party, and will continue his Mayoralty as an Independent.
==With the majority of conservative voters still very upset with both the Democrats at every political level and with the Republicans at every political level, is there any possibility that both the Constitution Party and the Libertarian Party will start seeing much more support and much more votes for their candidates at every political level from now on?==
I’m a big fan of the Constitution Party on principle, but I wouldn’t risk voting for them unless a GOP landslide was predicted.
I don’t think the Constitution Party is going to get anywhere, though. People who are socially conservative, fiscally conservative, anti-globalist and pro-American on trade aren’t exactly the ones with the most money to contribute.
As for the Libertarian Party, I don’t know much about them.
==Are you insane??? A “libertarian” gun-grabber???==
I didn’t know that. On the other hand, most of the pro-abortion folks are anti-RKBA; so Bloomberg will easily attract them.
A non-Republican is now declaring he is not a Republican. Hmmmmm..... is there a story here?
Anyone know/have the poll data on whether or not he’ll take from the pubs or dems....?
He was a Republican?
I don't think that word means what you think it means. Dislike of big-business country club Republicans is one thing. Supporting a command and control economy is another. Just because you don't like big-business country club Republicans doesn't mean that you want to redistribute the wealth of all the kulaks.
No. Without a runoff system your vote can be used against you. If you vote for a third party candidate you help the Democrats. Both the Republican Party and the Democrat Party use this technique to blackmail their voters. They don't have to be good, only better in the eyes of the voter than the opposition. If we had something like IRV I think we would find the Republican Party would suddenly become much more responsive to voters.
How could anyone notice?
“Thats not as bad as leaving the GOP to join al Qaeda like Ron Paul.”
And that’s not even a LITTLE BIT over the top, huh?
R.N.C. = the Really Not Conservative party
Agree. Big business and private clubs are part of the great American fabric.
well said ... it’s people like you who run small businesses who get squeezed by the corporate guru’s and their K Street lobbyists. Unfortunately, few recognize that.
The current immigration bill would not be out there were it not for big business and the multitude of related trade associations in DC lobbying full time. We can complain about LaRaza all we want, but on its own it wouldn’t have been able to pull in enough Congressmen and Senators to bring this bill to the Floor, much less have a chance of passing.
The IRV should be encouraged at every political level! I would definitely like to know how each of the GOP Presidential candidates, including Fred Thompson and Newt Gingrich, feel about possibly implementing the IRV at every political level.
I wish I had the time to read the thread.
I’m getting ready for a rather long trip.
But, I have to say that I am MOST impressed with your posts.
Thank you all!
It doesn't affect my business too much. But the blame needs to be squarely apportioned between the chamber guys, who drool over the prospect of an underclass to exploit for cheap labor and the leftists, who drool over the prospect of another underclass to exploit for cheap votes. Also, companies like First Data (Western Union) who make huge amounts of money remitting money to Mexico.
A guest worker class is perfect for both groups. Underclass members work for cheap, are second class residents and their kids (citizens all) grow up with the typical resentments and entitlement sense of the underclass and grow up to be perfect little exploitable democrats.
On balance, the left is more to blame--you can look at the senate votes and see where the balance lies. But without the chamber guys, the left would be unable to realize its takeover vision for America. It's an unholy alliance of venal motives all around.
But there it is. Either we beat it as citizens without huge money resources and no support from the major media outlets or we're the Senate's clay pigeon with Trent Lott, John McCain and Teddy Kennedy taking shots at us while they laugh in Senatorial bonhomie and congratulate each other on the good shots.
Bloomberg will take more votes from the Dems than the Republicans...
...by a margin of about 250-50...nationwide.
Mike Bloomberg will be the John Anderson of 2008.
With the Republicans going along with the dems on some issues ie: MCCAIN/Kennedy immigration disaster, enters a third party, an independent with a different message than the two parties who knows what will happen.
An Independent may just win.
Memo to GOP stop the talk of amnesty, stop going Globalism, go back to our roots and we can and will have a chance.
The right independent could possibly win in the right scenario.
Never in a million years do I think Mike Bloomberg will be “the right” anything on a national level.
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