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House rejects security fence at the border
The Business Journal ^ | Friday, June 15, 2007 | Not Identified

Posted on 06/16/2007 5:18:55 AM PDT by radar101

The U.S. House of Representatives shot down a proposal Friday by U.S. Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz, that would have built an 854-mile, double layered security fences along the Mexican border.

Franks noted that only 13 miles of a Mexican border fence approved last year have been built and that the fencing is needed to improve border security.

"With over 4,000 people crossing our southern border illegally every day, our border remains one of our country's most critical national security vulnerabilities. In order to carry out an act of terrorism, a militant Islamist simply needs a porous border and a dangerous weapon," said Franks in a statement.

Franks represents Glendale, Peoria, Sun City and Kingman.

The fence plan failed by 272 to 149 votes. Most Democrats (including Arizona congressional members Harry Mitchell, Gabrielle Giffords , Ed Pastor and Raul Grijalva) voted against the border fence plan.

Most Republicans (including Franks and fellow Arizona Reps. Rick Renzi and John Shadegg) voted for the comprehensive fence plan.

Mesa GOP Congressman Jeff Flake crossed party lines and vote against the border fence bill.

The House did approve an overall homeland and border security appropriations bill Friday. Mitchell said he backed that bill because it allocates federal money to hire more Border Patrol Agents and resources to deport violent illegal immigrant criminals.

"Deporting those illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes is absolutely imperative to keeping our communities safe," Mitchell said in a statement. Mitchell represents Tempe and Scottsdale.

The state's four Democratic representatives and Renzi voted for the final bill. Flake, Franks and Shadegg opposed.

The votes could be a precursor to a big political fight over immigration reforms, a guest worker program and how to deal with the 12 million illegal immigrants already in the U.S.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; fence; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; noamnestyforillegals; sellouts
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To: blam
They're just doing what you're to stupid to do. We've seen how the minute they arrive in Washington that they immediately become experts on everything.

I know. The latest, most obnoxious one is that sorry excuse for a man, the sissified, Lindsey Graham. He thinks he's smarter than everyone else. His term began in 2002. It will end in 2008, or hopefully, before!

We've become a serfdom.

Yeah, they're not going to be thinking that when the SHTF. They just need a little dose of reality!

Let the revolution begin.

I think it's just begun!

41 posted on 06/16/2007 6:25:18 AM PDT by NRA2BFree ("The time is near at hand which must determine whether Americans are to be free men or slaves!")
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To: radar101
U.S. Border Patrol Director David Aguilar said on Wednesday, “The United States will have “operational control” of its border with Mexico by 2013.”
42 posted on 06/16/2007 6:26:11 AM PDT by B4Ranch (DRIP = "Don't Return Incumbent Politicians," – two terms, and they're out.)
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To: radar101
P.S. Notice this story broke early Saturday morning...not exactly prime talkradio time.
What an amazing coincidence.
43 posted on 06/16/2007 6:26:46 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: NonValueAdded
You betcha FRiend. THey tell us how much their interested in border security in the Senate to get their favored abomination passed, but they turn it down in the house.

Sure. We should trust them. Right.

Liar, Cheats and thieves with no ethics, scruples or morals. That's our taxpayer funded govt for ya.

44 posted on 06/16/2007 6:27:41 AM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (The Immigration Hoax: "Subject to the Availability of Appropriations.")
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To: Diogenesis

Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., center, chats with with Sen. Mel Martinez, R-Fla., right, Los Angeles radio host Eddie 'El Piolin' Sotelo, left, and others, on Capitol Hill in Washington, Thursday, June 14, 2007, prior to a news conference on immigration reform

Eddie "Piolín" Sotelo (LA's top DJ - leader in illegal rights movement.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1605638/posts

45 posted on 06/16/2007 6:27:46 AM PDT by radar101 (Dream Team--Hunter&Thompson)
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To: truthkeeper

bttt


46 posted on 06/16/2007 6:29:04 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: radar101

Hey Mitchell.....DEPORT BEFORE THEY COMMIT AWFUL CRIMES, bub!!! THAT will keep us safe! IDIOTS!!


47 posted on 06/16/2007 6:30:25 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: nativist

Instead of a march, how many people would it take to join hands and make a human fence for a day? JAT


48 posted on 06/16/2007 6:31:05 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: radar101
The Kennedy's are about to make Wind Energy illegal
over the entire US, they open the border to their partners.


49 posted on 06/16/2007 6:32:14 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: truthkeeper
"We need to start talking, people."

Waiting on you. My senators are:

1. Jeff Sessions
2. Richard Shelby

Do you need me to help with yours?

50 posted on 06/16/2007 6:35:13 AM PDT by blam
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To: truthkeeper; nativist
There were thousands upon thousands of folk marching for illegal immigration....

..You know many/if not all... of those were confident of their protection....and unafraid to come 'out of the shadows' to march on the streets.

And they were right...

..no one tried to single out illegals, or round up illegals...

..very few business establishments reported/fired their illegals when they didn't show up for work that day.

Sadly, I believe if we march.......we will be arrested!.

...that's how disfranchised I feel.

51 posted on 06/16/2007 6:40:23 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: radar101
Illegal alien advocates on the march By Michelle Malkin June 13, 2007

A popular Spanish-language disc jockey began a cross-country trip Sunday to encourage Congress to overhaul the nation's immigration laws, planning to give 1 million supporting letters to lawmakers in Washington, D.C. Eduardo "Piolin" Sotelo, from the nationally syndicated show, "Piolin por la Manana," and several others traveling in his caravan left from a Mexican cultural landmark in downtown as several hundred fans and supporters cheered.

Who is Sotelo? He's southern California's number one morning disc jockey and a former illegal alien who used fraudulent identification to work, but successfully evaded deportation.

Here's his website.

http://yoapoyolareformamigratoria.com/index.html

The last time Sotelo was in the spotlight, his massive protests backfired--galvanizing immigration enforcement groups and quashing amnesty prospects last year.

http://michellemalkin.com/

52 posted on 06/16/2007 6:40:58 AM PDT by anglian
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To: Dead Corpse

I think your right. The sheeple are too busy with their recreation, sports events, and partying to give a rats ass about their freedom.


53 posted on 06/16/2007 6:41:13 AM PDT by unixfox (The 13th Amendment Abolished Slavery, The 16th Amendment Reinstated It !)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

They are trying one today, in a few cities. Didn’t get much publicity. I wish they would plan a march giving everyone enough time to get to DC. We need a bigger voice.

I’d also consider a march to our borders, the closest one each of us can get to. And yes, carrying pitchforks and the like.


54 posted on 06/16/2007 6:44:08 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul. WWPD (what would Patton do))
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To: Perdogg

Is there a picture of that $5 ladder? Are you saying that Mexico is smarter than Isreal? Fences seem to work everywhere in the world except on the Mexican border. Why?


55 posted on 06/16/2007 6:45:09 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: unixfox
Bread and circuses. Once those start to dry up and people start looking around at the mess that has been created, things'll get ugly.

Not organized. Not helpful in any meaningful way. A Mob destroys. It has no brain to speak of and no agenda.

What it will do is allow those of us who have thought ahead the leeway to make some real changes and to possibly even win back our Republic and our Constitution.

56 posted on 06/16/2007 6:45:15 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: blam; All
The topic: TARGETED RECALL

You are blessed to have Sessions, and Shelby's been holding up pretty well too, hasn't he? Mine are Feinstein and Boxer. It's baaaad out here, but then again, Cali DID recall Gray Davis.

We need to put this idea out there and start talking. Let the word get out into the public arena. Start brainstorming and sharing ideas. See who we can count on...and who can organize. Start emailing our talkradio guys. They've been with us in the past and they're with us now. And after all...don't they run the country?

I will be gone all weekend but am considering putting a discussion thread up on the topic so we can start the brainstorming.

Many would say we would be tilting at windmills...but the journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step. What do you all think?

57 posted on 06/16/2007 6:46:13 AM PDT by truthkeeper (It's the borders, stupid.)
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To: radar101
"With over 4,000 people crossing our southern border illegally every day, our border remains one of our country's most critical national security vulnerabilities.

Leave the border open and just grant amnesty.

There, fixed.

No more illegals.

THAT'S the insanity that occupies Washington these days while the rest of us souls just stand at the wall and bang our heads.

58 posted on 06/16/2007 6:48:25 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: truthkeeper
"It's baaaad out here, but then again, Cali DID recall Gray Davis."

I left San Jose in 1973.

59 posted on 06/16/2007 6:49:11 AM PDT by blam
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To: truthkeeper
" What do you all think?"

We need many threads like that in/on every state. Please do.

60 posted on 06/16/2007 6:50:29 AM PDT by blam
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