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House rejects security fence at the border
The Business Journal ^ | Friday, June 15, 2007 | Not Identified

Posted on 06/16/2007 5:18:55 AM PDT by radar101

The U.S. House of Representatives shot down a proposal Friday by U.S. Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz, that would have built an 854-mile, double layered security fences along the Mexican border.

Franks noted that only 13 miles of a Mexican border fence approved last year have been built and that the fencing is needed to improve border security.

"With over 4,000 people crossing our southern border illegally every day, our border remains one of our country's most critical national security vulnerabilities. In order to carry out an act of terrorism, a militant Islamist simply needs a porous border and a dangerous weapon," said Franks in a statement.

Franks represents Glendale, Peoria, Sun City and Kingman.

The fence plan failed by 272 to 149 votes. Most Democrats (including Arizona congressional members Harry Mitchell, Gabrielle Giffords , Ed Pastor and Raul Grijalva) voted against the border fence plan.

Most Republicans (including Franks and fellow Arizona Reps. Rick Renzi and John Shadegg) voted for the comprehensive fence plan.

Mesa GOP Congressman Jeff Flake crossed party lines and vote against the border fence bill.

The House did approve an overall homeland and border security appropriations bill Friday. Mitchell said he backed that bill because it allocates federal money to hire more Border Patrol Agents and resources to deport violent illegal immigrant criminals.

"Deporting those illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes is absolutely imperative to keeping our communities safe," Mitchell said in a statement. Mitchell represents Tempe and Scottsdale.

The state's four Democratic representatives and Renzi voted for the final bill. Flake, Franks and Shadegg opposed.

The votes could be a precursor to a big political fight over immigration reforms, a guest worker program and how to deal with the 12 million illegal immigrants already in the U.S.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; fence; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; noamnestyforillegals; sellouts
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

I’m all for that. It would be the most worthwhile ‘adventure vacation’ I ever took. Let’s get it rolling before the final Senate vote.


221 posted on 06/16/2007 11:31:53 PM PDT by parousia
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To: Dead Corpse

I think we can get some heat going by putting our reps on notice. Calif’s DiFi responded to demands for pardoning Compean and Ramos by calling for congressional committee to investigate. But she also voted against the fence.
Start calling on Melanie Morgan, Michelle Malkin, and Hewitt, Gallagher, Mark Levin, Hannity,Sussman, Lars Larson, et al.
It’s worth a try, isn’t it? We can boldly remind the Parliament of Hoes that this is a government of, by and FOR the people (citizens). . . and if they don’t believe us..wait ‘til 2008.Meanwhile, stop contributions. But we’ve got to get organized and BELIEVE we can at least draw some blood!


222 posted on 06/17/2007 12:38:55 AM PDT by parousia
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To: texastoo

All that makes very good sense. Keep going.


223 posted on 06/17/2007 12:48:45 AM PDT by parousia
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To: truthkeeper

Ping me.


224 posted on 06/17/2007 12:51:29 AM PDT by parousia
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To: blam; All

great idea,

“You establish a format and let’s begin a thread for every state in the union, a possible example for a title of each thread (just change the state name) :”
“CALIFORNIA RECALL: Petition To Recall Elected Officials, Over Immigration Bill”


I have been thinking along the same lines, except we help each other and TARGET specific scallywags for defeat, beginning with the next election of senators. 1/3 of the senate is up for election next year, and start addressing them as “ex-Senator such and such”, now, just to let them know.

Do the same with the House. And then do the same with the staffs of the scallywags, as they are the ones doing much of the dirty work, secretaries, clerks, etc, who really need the jobs, which we are paying them to do.

then we focus, all freepers, no matter what state, to defeat the leaders who are marching our country to oblivion.


225 posted on 06/17/2007 2:35:33 AM PDT by XBob (Jail the employers of the INVADERS !!)
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To: truthkeeper; All

82 - excellent - “I’m thinking commercials. Tough to-the-point message, ... It should be hard-hitting, even devastating, like ... LBJ’s flower girl [with A-bomb mushroom cloud in background].

see my #225


226 posted on 06/17/2007 2:46:22 AM PDT by XBob (Jail the employers of the INVADERS !!)
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To: truthkeeper; blam; cyborg

88 - truthkeeper
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1851241/posts?page=88#88

please put me on your ping list.

we must act. we are on the verge of losing our country.


227 posted on 06/17/2007 2:57:03 AM PDT by XBob (Jail the employers of the INVADERS !!)
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To: parousia

Thanks for your post. As a matter of fact, I have been searching this am for a copy of the 1986 amnesty bill by Simpson and Mazzola. I am very inerested in knowing the exact reasons it failed. I’ll keep looking and maybe some emailing today for help.


228 posted on 06/17/2007 5:47:32 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: radar101

Forget the fence, build a minefield.


229 posted on 06/17/2007 5:49:18 AM PDT by reg45
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To: parousia
"... and if they don’t believe us..wait ‘til 2008."

We'll have lost our country by that time. We need to stop this thing now.

230 posted on 06/17/2007 5:49:23 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

I live in Illinois. I have two blue-rat senators that are an embarrassment to the state, the nation, the world, the solar system, the galaxy and the universe.


231 posted on 06/17/2007 5:53:39 AM PDT by reg45
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To: reg45
"I live in Illinois. I have two blue-rat senators that are an embarrassment to the state, the nation, the world, the solar system, the galaxy and the universe."

You have work to do.

232 posted on 06/17/2007 6:08:23 AM PDT by blam
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To: radar101; Coleus; nickcarraway; narses; Mr. Silverback; Canticle_of_Deborah; ...

This seems like a nightmare of sorts.

Didn’t Congress pass and Bush sign into law this last October?

For Immediate Release
October 26, 2006 CONTACT: Joe Kasper
(202) 225-5672
http://www.house.gov/list/press/ca52_hunter/fence_signing.shtml

Hunter Applauds Signing of Secure Fence Act

Washington, D.C. – Today, Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) commended the enactment of H.R. 6061 (King-NY), the Secure Fence Act. The legislation, coauthored by Congressman Hunter, calls for more than 700 miles of strategic security fencing on America’s land border with Mexico.
“The Secure Fence Act is a critical piece of legislation that delivers greater security to our nation’s Southern border,” said Congressman Hunter. “Regaining operational control of this region remains one of our greatest priorities and this legislation is a significant step toward achieving this goal.

“The benefits associated with border security fencing are evident in San Diego County, where more than 10 miles of double-layered infrastructure has been erected. Since border fence construction began in 1996, crime rates in San Diego County have been reduced by more than half, vehicle drive-throughs have been eliminated and apprehensions have significantly decreased as the result of fewer crossing attempts.

“Securing our borders requires a multi-faceted approach in which fencing is a very important part. The Republican led Congress has remained focused on strengthening border security and the Secure Fence Act further underscores this commitment.”

In 1994, Congressman Hunter legislatively mandated the construction of 14 miles of double-layered security fencing between San Diego County and Tijuana, Mexico. Construction began in 1996 and, despite years of dilatory legal and environmental challenges, the remaining 3 miles of fencing have been set for completion. The Secure Fence Act replicates the successful design of the San Diego Border Fence – two layers of fencing separated by a high-speed border patrol road and monitored by accompanying infrastructure and personnel – requiring its construction in five separate locations totaling more than 700 miles.


233 posted on 06/17/2007 6:13:15 AM PDT by cpforlife.org (A Catholic Respect Life Curriculum is available at KnightsForLife.org)
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To: blam

People in IL never have been much good at picking out senators. Of course, you are not alone!!!


234 posted on 06/17/2007 7:36:19 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: Uncle Chip
The fence plan failed by 272 to 149 votes. Those 272 need to be sent to the unemployment line ----

I hope somebody is keeping a list of who is on our side and who is not.

235 posted on 06/17/2007 1:13:32 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: CindyDawg
Instead of a march, how many people would it take to join hands and make a human fence for a day? JAT

While you're there can you go ahead and build it? ;-)

236 posted on 06/17/2007 1:19:01 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah

Good idea. Every one bring a 4x4 and some wire.


237 posted on 06/17/2007 1:21:25 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: anglian
Feinstein and Specter also voted on Senate floor in favor of amendment to kill border fence in 2006.

Not a surprise. Feinstein is a member of CFR.

238 posted on 06/17/2007 1:23:29 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: radar101

Bump for later reading if I can keep my lunch down. This is like watching the most beautiful girl in high school throw her life away on drugs.


239 posted on 06/17/2007 2:50:13 PM PDT by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)
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To: radar101; All

Can anyone explain what the heck is happening in the house? First they vote to withhold fed money from sanctuary cities , but then they do this. It’s like trying to follow the writings of a madman.

Tancredo wins surprise immigration vote
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1850955/posts

Posted on 06/15/2007 1:13:17 PM PDT by The Blitherer

Washington, D.C. – The U.S. House of Representatives this morning voted to withhold federal emergency services funding for “sanctuary cities” that protect illegal immigrants.

Anti-immmigration champion Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., sponsored the measure, which he says would apply to cities such as Denver and Boulder. He was elated by its passage, which stunned critics and supporters alike.


240 posted on 06/17/2007 3:03:04 PM PDT by Kevmo (We need to get away from the Kennedy Wing of the Republican Party ~Duncan Hunter)
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