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To: Brytani

Wait a minute....

I’ve been following this case closely and NEVER have I heard one word uttered that it was a dumb thing to do to hire strippers. Of course I could have missed it but I’m doubting you. Forgive me.

And of course it doesn’t mean they raped anyone. That’s beside any point I’m trying to make.

You know, I just don’t get it. The original poster said he (or she) would be proud of Seligman was his or her boy. Well how proud can you be of a kid that was involved with hiring strippers, yay specifically requesting BLACK strippers? I’d be embarrassed beyond tears because it’s demeaning to women. Men just hate for women to point this out because like liberals they want to keep on doing stuff that makes them feel good and not be called on it.

My mission, and I’m not letting up oh no I’m not, is to keep pointing out that this demeaning of women should not be treated as a “boys will be boys” thing because it’s not. And again, I ask, how would you feel if your sister, daughter or mother showed up to give the show? And no, it’s not beside the point of this case. It’s EXACTLY the sort of circumstance where this learning point can be made.

But this does not mean that I didn’t think that Seligman’s testimony today wasn’t shattering. This young man’s whole life was devistated. I don’t know how Nifong could sit there and listen. I’d have felt like two cents, ruining a young life like Nifong did, all for his own gain. But then I have a very well-developed sense of guilt. Heh. Which is why I don’t get how come those boys and all who do such a thing don’t feel guilty for using women like this.

And further, if just one of those boys would come out with how this objectification of women can lead to unintended circumstances, hey they could sell their story and have a best seller. I haven’t heard either any boy or their parents mention the wrongness in hiring strippers to come to a private party when hey, those boys were supposed to be in SCHOOL.


122 posted on 06/15/2007 2:26:19 PM PDT by Fishtalk (http://patfish.blogspot.com)
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To: Fishtalk

When this case first came out the members of the lacrosse team gave an interview where they admitted hiring of a stripper was a dumb move, this was the same interview where they admitted the e-mail, (remember the e-mail quoting American Psycho) was also a dumb move.

As for me, my daughter or someone else in my family becoming I stripper I can only say this. I raised my children to respect all people and to stay as far away from porn and all it’s subscum as possible. Not so much for moral reason but for the decayed life they potentially would be led down.

As for someone in my family, I would do everything in my power, not limited to kidnapping them, to keep them from entering into that lifestyle. HOWEVER - in the end, it would still be up to my family member to make that awful mistake or not.

Sorry, but Magnum and all other women out there who work in the sex industry have choices. They have the choice to spread their legs for money, to show off their bodies for money etc. This attitude that women need to be protected from the vicious likes of men is to Taliban I don’t even want to get into it here.

Imo, both parties, those who buy and those who sell, are equally quilty.

In this case the penalty has been more then sufficient for one group, Magnum, the other part of this get’s off scott free.


131 posted on 06/15/2007 2:34:52 PM PDT by Brytani (Keeper of the FR Loofah, Bath-cap and Rubber Duckie)
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To: Fishtalk
I haven’t heard either any boy or their parents mention the wrongness in hiring strippers to come to a private party when hey, those boys were supposed to be in SCHOOL.

Does being a college student mean you are IN SCHOOL 7/24? What is your point? It was midnight+ on a weekend.

133 posted on 06/15/2007 2:35:25 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: Fishtalk
demeaning of women should not be treated as a “boys will be boys” thing because it’s not

Listen, you prude, ordering strippers is LEGAL. NOBODY should be framed for rape and kidnapping just because they attend a party where people, of their own volition, act WITHIN the law. You need to grow up.

134 posted on 06/15/2007 2:37:09 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Fishtalk
I’ve been following this case closely and NEVER have I heard one word uttered that it was a dumb thing to do to hire strippers. Of course I could have missed it but I’m doubting you. Forgive me.

Sorry but you missed the first year of posts. That is not following the case closely.

Well how proud can you be of a kid that was involved with hiring strippers, yay specifically requesting BLACK strippers?

For someone closely following the case you are really out to lunch. They were called racist because they specifically did not want BLACK strippers. That may have been the whole problem in the first place.

My mission, and I’m not letting up oh no I’m not, is to keep pointing out that this demeaning of women should not be treated as a “boys will be boys” thing because it’s not

It would really, really help your mission if you knew what you were talking about. Going off on a rant without a clue is funny at best :)

I haven’t heard either any boy or their parents mention the wrongness in hiring strippers to come to a private party when hey, those boys were supposed to be in SCHOOL.

You are saying that they are supposed to be in school at Midnight? Are you implying that for participating in a perfectly legal activity that Nifong was justified in ruining the lives of a lot of people?

This whole debacle has been very demeaning to women. A womens false and malicious claims have done more to damage the cause of women than you will ever know. She proved that some women are worthless and should be treated that way. You as much as anyone should be going after her. It wasn't the boys that demeaned her it was Crystal who defamed all the good and virtuous women out there. That is why we are angry at her and her willing accomplice.

260 posted on 06/16/2007 8:02:00 PM PDT by LeGrande (Muslims, Jews and Christians all believe in the same God of Abraham.)
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