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Senators to Revive Immigration Bill
WASHINGTON (AP) ^ | 06-14-07 | DAVID ESPO

Posted on 06/14/2007 3:55:45 PM PDT by Alaphiah123

Key senators tentatively agreed on a plan to revive a stalled immigration bill on Thursday, aided by President Bush's support for a quick $4.4 billion aimed at "securing our borders and enforcing our laws at the work site."

Officials who spoke on condition of anonymity said Republican and Democratic supporters of the bill were presenting their proposal to the Senate's top two leaders, who in turn arranged an early evening meeting to discuss it.

Precise details to be presented to Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., and Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., were not disclosed.

In general, according to officials familiar with the discussions, Republicans and Democrats would each be accorded roughly a dozen chances to amend the measure, with the hope that they would then combine to provide the 60 votes needed to overcome a filibuster by die-hard opponents. The officials who described the emerging plan did so on condition of anonymity, saying the negotiations had been conducted in private.

The legislation has generated intense controversy, particularly for provisions envisioning eventual citizenship for many of the estimated 12 million immigrants now in the country unlawfully. The bill also calls for greater border security and a crackdown on the hiring of illegal employees.

"We're going to show the American people that the promises in this bill will be kept," Bush said, two days after launching a personal rescue mission.

Any agreement is subject to approval by Reid, who has said repeatedly it is up to Bush and Republicans to line up the votes needed to advance the measure if it is to be brought back to the Senate for debate. Reid, who has expressed misgivings about elements of the bill, sidetracked it last week after supporters gained only 45 of the 60 votes needed.

Republicans accounted for only seven of the 45 votes, and Reid said earlier this week, "We'll move on to immigration when they have their own act together."

Bush's decision to personally announce support for the accelerated funding reflected concerns expressed by Republican senators at a closed-door meeting on Tuesday. Several told him their constituents doubted the government was capable of following through on a commitment to enforce immigration laws.

In a letter sent to Bush before the meeting, Georgia Republican Sens. Saxby Chambliss and Johnny Isakson wrote, "This lack of trust is rooted in the mistakes made in 1986, and the continued chaos surrounding our immigration laws. Understandably, the lack of credibility the federal government has on this issue gives merit to the skepticism of many about future immigration reform."

Under the legislation as drafted, money for border enforcement would be collected gradually as illegal immigrants pay the fines and fees needed to achieve legal status. The letter asked Bush to secure the border before other elements of the immigration measure go into effect, and the president agreed in his remarks to the Associated Builders and Contractors.

"One common concern is whether the government will provide the resources to meet the goals in the bill. They say, 'It's fine to talk about it, are you actually going to do something?'" he said.

"To answer these concerns I support an amendment that will provide $4.4 billion in immediate additional funding for securing our borders and enforcing our laws at the work site," he said.

"By matching our benchmarks with these critical funds, we're going to show the American people that the promises in this bill will be kept."

Two Republican supporters of the legislation, Sens. Lindsey Graham of South Carolina and Jon Kyl of Arizona, had previously proposed advanced funding.

"The moment the presidential signing pen meets the paper these funds will be available," Graham said in a statement welcoming Bush's remarks.

But Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., an opponent of the legislation, took a different view. "I appreciate the effort to fund border security, but there's simply no reason why we should be forced to tie amnesty to it. If the administration was serious about fulfilling the border security promises, then this funding should have been supported all along, not offered at the last minute to attract votes to a bad bill."

Even a decision to return the bill to the Senate floor does not guarantee its passage, given the intense opposition. "We've got people out there on both sides really ready to burn the place down," said Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi, the second-ranking Republican. "I don't think we ought to let that happen."

The calendar, too, presents obstacles to any attempt to pass the measure before the Senate begins a scheduled vacation in two weeks. Should they choose, critics of the immigration measure could slow progress on other measures Reid wants debated in the next two weeks. The effect would be to further reduce prospects for passage of the immigration bill.


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To: Shaun_MD

I agree with that.


221 posted on 06/14/2007 8:53:50 PM PDT by B4Ranch (DRIP = "Don't Return Incumbent Politicians," – two terms, and they're out.)
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To: politicals
Are you American Indian? Probably not.

Look what their failed immigration policy got them.

If a person in your neighborhood was mistreated and could not adequately provide for their family and came to you (your property) for help - are they invading?

Non-sequiter. They are not our neighbors from down the street. They are citizens of another country. If they were asking for help to make it a livable place, I might be more inclined to listen.

Much like your neighbors, our territorial neighbors as a country deserve slightly different treatment than someone like China or Iran.


I vastly prefer the policy George Washington, one of those old, dead, white guys you may have heard of, when he said that we should treat all other nations as equal, trading when we could and warring when we must. Mexico is just another country, and is not notable worthy of any "special treatment". Geography is not an important factor in this consideration. Also, they have opposed in foreign policy very recently.

Do you think the US will be better off if someone like Lopez Obrador gains control of Mexico - he is a great buddy of Hugo Chavez. Yes our dollars are helping prop up that country and yes it is corrupt, but that doesn’t mean all the people are. They have spoken in 2 straight elections and they deserve our support to preserve a more friendly North America or do you think Hugo would be a good neighbor?

We should avoid as much as possible interfering in another countries politics so long as they respect us. If they want a free market, good for them it's better for trade. If they want to follow a tyrannical dictator who murders them for fun, as long as he doesn't attack America or our allies, I don't care.

Consider the more complete picture before spouting your ignorance.

You do realize you are talking to a Freeper who lived a good long while in San Diego, and has seen this elephant, verdad?
222 posted on 06/14/2007 8:53:59 PM PDT by Hawk1976 (It is better to die than to live as a slave.)
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To: Theodore R.
HCA was an answer on Jeopardy tonight, and the contestants did not know that the "H" stands for "Hospital".

And quite a few nursing homes IIRC. The Frist family is or were major players in it.

223 posted on 06/14/2007 8:55:25 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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To: puppypusher

Very astute puppy!


224 posted on 06/14/2007 8:58:35 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Alaphiah123
Here is a list of the senators the amnesty pushers are going to try to flip, along with contact information. Please politely, but firmly, request that they oppose this deal.
Senator Phone Fax
Alexander (R-TN) (202) 224-4944 (202) 228-3398
Bennett (R-UT) (202) 224-5444 (202) 228-1168
Cochran (R-MS) (202) 224-5054 (202) 224-9450
Coleman (R-MN) (202) 224-5641 (202) 224-1152
Collins (R-ME) (202) 224-2523 (202) 224-2693
Cornyn (R-TX) (202) 224-2934 (202) 228-2856
Craig (R-ID) (202) 224-2752 (202) 228-1067
Domenici (R-NM) (202) 224-6621 (202) 228-3261
Gregg (R-NH) (202) 224-3324 (202) 224-4952
Hatch (R-UT) (202) 224-5251 (202) 224-6331
Hutchison (R-TX) (202) 224-5922 (202) 224-0776
Kyl (R-AZ) (202) 224-4521 (202) 224-2207
Lott (R-MS) (202) 224-6253 (202) 224-2262
McConnell (R-KY) (202) 224-2541 (202) 224-2499
Murkowski (R-AK) (202) 224-6665 (202) 224-5301
Smith (R-OR) (202) 224-3753 (202) 228-3997
Snowe (R-ME) (202) 224-5344 (202) 224-1946
Stevens (R-AK) (202) 224-3004 (202) 224-2354
Warner (R-VA) (202) 224-2023 (202) 224-6295
Please copy and paste this information to other threads, as appropriate.

225 posted on 06/14/2007 9:01:36 PM PDT by B Knotts (Anybody but Giuliani!)
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To: Alaphiah123

Is nobody concerned by the prevailing assumption by the Senators and House members of Congress they are the “Ruling Class” opposed to the “Representative Class”?

We must continue to humble them.


226 posted on 06/14/2007 9:07:16 PM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists...call 'em what you will...They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Alaphiah123

I listened to Tony Snow’s line of crap on this on Laura Ingraham. Laura handed Tony’s ass back to him, but he and Bush are undeterred at pushing this crap through.


227 posted on 06/14/2007 9:08:22 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Bad spellers of the world untie!!)
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To: EGPWS

When I heard this I thought it was even more ridiculous and desperate... Not only they want (again) to pass this bill, but they want to bribe us with our own money so we will pay even more for it!

That’s typical liberal approach to things, it sounds like it came from the mouth of Ted Kennedy himself who is no doubt a “spiritual” adviser on this travesty.


228 posted on 06/14/2007 9:09:24 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Loyolas Mattman
To think that anything more than a handful of former illegal aliens are going to turn into reliable Republican voters is nothing short of insanity.

With the type of attitude that most conservatives have towards American guest workers,no, there won't be many immigrants voting Republican. You'll have no one to blame but yourselves when the demonrats become the only party capable of winning.
229 posted on 06/14/2007 9:09:45 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: politicals

Legal immigrants (including Mexicans) are usually small-to-medium business owners and vote Republicans. I know some personally. Illegals are not and are not expected to be, they are looking more for the benefits that they and their families will be “entitled” to and provided for by Democrats who are in the “protection” racket for all the “minorities”.


230 posted on 06/14/2007 9:15:59 PM PDT by CutePuppy (If you don't ask the right questions you may not get the right answers)
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To: Shaun_MD
The Posse Comitatus Act forbids it.
231 posted on 06/14/2007 9:18:15 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: MaxMax
"I returned President Bush' birthday card saying I will not donate, to the GOP/RNC over this immigration mess..

Me too....added a couple of ryme lines...

And...

1. Close borders.

2. Enforce existing laws

3. Deport illegals.

4. NO amnesty.

Money follows...

Happy birthday.

232 posted on 06/14/2007 9:18:49 PM PDT by spokeshave ("Hitlery is uniting the country. Everybody hates her.")
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To: jmax

http://humaneventsonline.com.edgesuite.net/snow061407.mp3

audio/Snow


233 posted on 06/14/2007 9:26:34 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.)
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To: spokeshave
Gah, I should have talked to you first. I like your's better.

/Salute

234 posted on 06/14/2007 9:30:32 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: Alaphiah123

This is not over yet. Bush refuses to give up this easily. It's his stubborn character. As I predicted he would try to resurrect it and call it something else. We have to keep our guard up. We need to keep the pressure up. We have no choice but to fight. The oligarchy wants cheap labor and a destruction of the middle class and the millionaire democrats want votes they can count on. A marriage made in HELL.

STAGE TWO is to go after the people who hire illegals. Start giving them fines and arresting them. Just catch ten or 100 of them on the nightly news. The magnet will dry up and most of the 12 million will go home by themselves.

As an addendum, we should anonymously call the IRS, people working "off the books" means taxes ain't being paid. Make anonymous fliers and hang them around the neighborhood, name names. It's time to embarrass these bustards, whether they give to the GOP or Rats, we don't need them.

CALL! CALL! CALL! CALL! AND KEEP CALLING TILL THE LINES FRY!

WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! WRITE! TILL YOU RUN OUT OF INK IN YOUR PEN!

Bombard the Democrats as well, especially the ones that ran on an anti illegal immigration plank and the ones in marginal districts who could be vulnerable. keep pounding on them. This is a bipartisan issue not a Conservative or Liberal issue BUT AN AMERICAN issue.

STOP AMNESTY NOW!! WE CAN DO IT!!

The best way to stop Shamnesty

235 posted on 06/14/2007 9:39:00 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: whipitgood

That will be the fault of conservatives for alienating millions of new voters.


236 posted on 06/14/2007 9:39:09 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: Alaphiah123
But Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., an opponent of the legislation, took a different view. "I appreciate the effort to fund border security, but there's simply no reason why we should be forced to tie amnesty to it. If the administration was serious about fulfilling the border security promises, then this funding should have been supported all along, not offered at the last minute to attract votes to a bad bill."
237 posted on 06/14/2007 9:40:51 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Theodore R.

June 14, 2007

Dear

Thank you for contacting me about the problem of illegal immigration in our country. It is extremely important to me that I hear the opinions and concerns of Oklahomans, especially on such a pressing issue.

As you know, a bi-partisan group of senators reached a compromise with President Bush on a comprehensive reform bill (S. 1348), which was debated by the Senate and ultimately failed to receive enough support for a final vote for passage. Please be assured, I was opposed to this bill and I am glad the legislation did not succeed.

First, I am disappointed in the way Senate leadership handled this immigration bill. It was released in the middle of the night, merely days before debate began, bypassing the Senate Judiciary Committee and preventing senators from taking the time necessary to scrutinize such lengthy, divisive legislation. Furthermore, debate time was extremely limited and very few amendments to the bill were allowed consideration.

Although there were good provisions in the bill, such as a merit-based legal immigration system, the overall bill would have been harmful to our nation and would have done nothing to solve our problems with illegal immigration. I previously outlined fundamental principles that would guide my votes during immigration reform. I support legislation that secures our borders and enforces existing law, but does not contain an amnesty provision of any kind. Unfortunately, S. 1348 offered amnesty to 12 million illegal immigrants and did little to secure our porous borders.

During the debate, I offered an amendment to require that existing border security and immigration laws be enforced, and the enforcement be certified by Congress, before any provisions in the new bill could take effect. The American people expect their laws to be upheld, but have lost faith in Congress and the federal government to defend our nation from illegal immigration. Unfortunately, my amendment was not agreed to, and in the end, I could not support the existing legislation.

It is likely the Senate will consider immigration reform legislation again in the near future. Please know my position on the issue has not changed, and I will continue actively working for reform that protects our borders and upholds our rule of law.

Again, thank you for continuing to contact me on this issue. Best wishes.

Sincerely, A

Tom Coburn, M.D.

United States Senator

TC: ef


238 posted on 06/14/2007 9:42:37 PM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration.)
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To: Cyropaedia

Another case of conservatives shooting themselves in the foot.


239 posted on 06/14/2007 9:45:22 PM PDT by B. Chezwick (It is every true Christian's duty to defend Israel with their very life.)
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To: PhiKapMom
My guess is Libby is being saturated with calls and mail. Her state like mine is becoming a haven for illegals. The problem is in North Carolina in many parts jobs are hard to come by especially in furniture factories which is one of their biggest products. If she buckles on this then she will not be re-elected I can say that for certain. Illegal immigration is taking peoples livelihoods.

I'm in East Tennessee and in my area the biggest concentration of illegals seems to be in two places. One is Morristown where there are some major industrial parks including furniture factories and to the west the DOD Crown Jewell called Oak Ridge. How can our government tell have us living under color coded alerts and yet have persons illegal or not from a nation known to steal our weapons technology living and working there?

The impact on these areas? I live in a rural county near Oak Ridge. Just 5 years ago I felt safe going there late at night unarmed. Not anymore. This area is also saturated with D.O.E. and D.O.D. contractors for everything from the National Lab to nuke weapons plants.

A few years back right after 9/11 a TVA security officer found three M.E. nationals at a dam upstream from Oak Ridge at about 3:00am. The computer files were down so he couldn't run their back ground but he got their names. One was wanted and they were on expired work Visa's. Am I making a mountain out of a mole hill? Well during WW2 the War Department set up machine gun placements at that dam in fear it would be bombed and the Manhattan Project underway a few miles down stream destroyed. That was our standard of national security back then with limited weapon capabilities for our enemies to use against us.

If someone/anyone wants in this country bad enough to live and work here then they want it bad enough to wait their turn. Get a clear back ground check and a clean bill of health as well. Our open borders have opened us up to diseases that were virtually gone from our nation. These nations do not take medication correctly and as a result a person can be carrying a super drug resistant bug.

Last and this is a true story I am not making it up. How bad does someone coming here wish to adapt and become Americans?

Three brothers were born to Immigrant parents from Romania actually 5 were I think but three were noted for success. Mrs Horowitz had three sons one named Moses, one named Jerome, and the other Samuel. The boys were born after they got here. They sent them to public schools and they spoke very clear English despite the fact the mother could not say Samuels name correctly. It came out as Shemp. Yea Shemp. As in Moe, Curly {Jerome} and Shemp the three Howard brothers later to be part of the Three Stooges. Can you detect any hint they are born to Romanian immigrant parents? I can't. The illegals are not here to be Americans. They are here to make us become their culture and insist we adapt to their needs. What a difference several generations makes.

240 posted on 06/14/2007 9:54:30 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Kool Aid! The popular American favorite drink now Made In Mexico. Pro-Open Borders? Drink Up!)
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