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Hospitals with a year-long waiting list (England)
Telegraph ^ | 09/06/2007 | Nic Fleming

Posted on 06/13/2007 1:18:59 PM PDT by Kimmers

Almost half a million NHS patients are waiting more than a year for hospital treatment, official figures showed yesterday.

One person in eight who is admitted to hospital for a non-emergency procedure has to wait more than 52 weeks between being referred by a GP and being treated. There are also large variations in waiting times across the country.

The figures were revealed yesterday as Andy Burnham, the health minister, claimed that the Government was on track to deliver on its "historic" promise effectively to abolish hospital waiting lists by the end of next year. Previous waiting list figures have not included so-called "hidden waits" including those for diagnosis and referral between hospital specialists.

advertisementBut in 2004 ministers promised to include the whole time from referral by a doctor to the start of treatment.

They pledged that by this new measure no one would wait longer than 18 weeks by the end of 2008.

The Department of Health yesterday released statistics showing the proportion of patients admitted to hospital and treated within this time was 48 per cent in March - up from 35 per cent in December.

Mr Burnham said: "These are very exciting set of figures of which the NHS should be very proud.

"They show we are well on course to deliver what I believe is a historic goal of ending waiting lists as we have known them in the year of the NHS's 60th anniversary.

"Over almost the entire country waiting lists fell last year. They fell quickly last year and they are now falling even more quickly.

"This represents the culmination of the 10-year programme to deal with waiting that the Government began in 1997."

Approximately four million patients are admitted to hospitals in England each year while some eight million have outpatient care.

The Department of Health's figures, which relate only to those admitted to hospitals for treatment, show 12.4 per cent of the approximately 330,000 patients treated in March had waited longer than a year. At this rate the annual number of patients waiting this long would be 491,000.

The report shows there are wide variations in the proportion of patients being treated within 18 weeks across the country with some local primary care trusts (PCTs) performing much better than others.

The six best-performing are Leicester City (98 per cent of patients treated within 18 weeks), Solihull Care (94 per cent), South Birmingham (94 per cent), Heart of Birmingham Teaching (93 per cent), Leicester County and Rutland (90 per cent) and Tower Hamlets (87 per cent).

The worst-performing are Swindon (22 per cent), Brighton and Hove City (23 per cent), Mid Essex (25 per cent), Enfield (26 per cent), West Hertfordshire (27 per cent) and Hull (29 per cent).

There were also variations between treatment specialities, with only a quarter of orthopaedic patients being treated within 18 weeks. The best performing speciality was geriatric medicine in which the proportion was 80 per cent. Previous statistics have not dealt with the whole wait between GP referral and first treatment.

In June 1997 there were 339,000 patients in England waiting 13 weeks or more for their first appointment to see a hospital specialist. In April this year the figure was 179,000.

Niall Dickson, chief executive of the King's Fund health think tank, said: "It is a credit to the health service that waiting times have continued to fall steadily at a time of financial pressure.

"However there must be concern over the widespread variations in performance across different parts of the country which mean very few patients in London, the South Coast and east of England are being treated within 18 weeks."

Andrew Lansley, the shadow health secretary, said: "The NHS must be supported to improve services and end long waits for treatment, but 18 weeks is not sufficiently ambitious for many treatments. On the Continent waits of this kind would be regarded as outrageous. But a one-size-fits-all target will distort clinical care and damage the NHS."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: hospital; socializedmedicine; uk; waitinglist; workersparadise
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1 posted on 06/13/2007 1:19:02 PM PDT by Kimmers
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To: Kimmers

Yep, this could be in our future.

While problems of the uninsured and access to care for some people are important concerns, do we really want to go to full-blown socialized medicine and have unintended consequences such as rationing of care??????

You know where Hillary stands on this one. Think very carefully when you vote.


2 posted on 06/13/2007 1:21:30 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Kimmers

Democrat party health at its finest.


3 posted on 06/13/2007 1:21:39 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember (The ideal tyranny is that which is ignorantly self-administered by its victims.)
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To: Kimmers

‘swhat the Clintoons had in mind for the rest of us.


4 posted on 06/13/2007 1:22:07 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: Kimmers

Could cut down on abortions...


5 posted on 06/13/2007 1:22:10 PM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Kimmers

Ain’t socialism great?


6 posted on 06/13/2007 1:22:46 PM PDT by SIDENET ("Baby steps to the elevator...")
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To: Old Professer

Good point. :)


7 posted on 06/13/2007 1:23:00 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Diversity in theory is the enemy of diversity in practice.)
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To: FormerACLUmember

Sure they may die waiting, but they’ll never get a bill. Unless you count confiscatory taxes.

“The AARP just released a report that 14,000 people suffer injuries each year while brushing their teeth, to which the British said, “see?”.” - Jay Leno


8 posted on 06/13/2007 1:24:44 PM PDT by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Old Professer
"Could cut down on abortions..."

No. Don't you know that under HilaryCare those would go to the head of the line?

9 posted on 06/13/2007 1:24:47 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Old Professer

Could cut down on abortions...

Nawwww.... Planned Parenthood, with their Dim hooks and increased taxpayer subsidies will make sure those have a priority...

10 posted on 06/13/2007 1:24:55 PM PDT by GoldCountryRedneck ("Why can’t we start solving the problem by breaking up Big Government?"- MortMan)
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To: Old Professer

There is or will be special quickie clinics for that


11 posted on 06/13/2007 1:26:38 PM PDT by Uncledave
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To: Kimmers

I think you posted a bad link to The Telegraph. I didn’t find the article when I followed it.


12 posted on 06/13/2007 1:29:10 PM PDT by Parmenio
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To: Old Professer

Heck - they make sure to get you in for that in 20 minutes. That’s why the wait time is so low. :-P


13 posted on 06/13/2007 1:31:55 PM PDT by statered ("And you know what I mean.")
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To: Kimmers

While I am against socialised medicine and Hellary-care, this article exaggerates just a tad. I lived in the UK for 4 years and didn’t encounter the problems it says. I have a herniated disk and was hopitalized with no waiting including follow-ups.


14 posted on 06/13/2007 1:31:59 PM PDT by rbosque ("A nation which kills it's own young has no future." -- John Paul II)
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To: Kimmers

Liberal solution: Have more abortions, and there will be less demand for medical care.


15 posted on 06/13/2007 1:33:10 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Elections have consequences.)
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To: Kimmers

LOL Ill have to book mark this for when I hear about superior models of healthcare..


16 posted on 06/13/2007 1:34:40 PM PDT by N3WBI3 (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak....)
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To: Parmenio

Try this one....I am sorry

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=P1E2TKIG0JZBNQFIQMGSFF
4AVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2007/06/08/nmrsa208.xml

This is an older article that I recieved via email. I cut and paste from the email but I am unable to get the complete link. You might have to cut and paste the rest in.

Again, I apologize. I am not sure what else to do.


17 posted on 06/13/2007 1:35:58 PM PDT by Kimmers (Where is Hispania ?)
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To: Kimmers
Hospitals with a year-long waiting list (England)

Gotta love socialized medicine. /sarcasm
18 posted on 06/13/2007 1:38:40 PM PDT by G8 Diplomat (Political "protests" are nothing more than mass whining)
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To: G8 Diplomat

For the year that Emma Watson is waiting to be hospitalized, she can curl up at my place.


19 posted on 06/13/2007 1:48:53 PM PDT by CholeraJoe ("You just killed a helicopter with a car!" "I know. I was out of bullets.")
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To: rbosque
That is because it has not happened yet....did you note the date 9/6/2007.....I was not paying attention and did a cut and paste directly from the article.....this maybe a FReeper first or at least a new category “News from the future”.....giggle..
20 posted on 06/13/2007 1:50:56 PM PDT by Kimmers (Where is Hispania ?)
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