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To: fabian

>>that’s good because there is alot more scientific evidence for creationism than evolution. It is just that people have to find it on their own as the evolutionists in many schools won’t allow an honest teaching of both theories...due to theirs being built on sand. Of course it is difficult for them to admitt to that.<<

As a Christian, I’d love to find evidence of creation. And do see patterns in the universe and wonder if they were not put there.

But I have yet to see where clear evidence of something occured that could not possibly have a physical explanation.

Nor does this seem strange since God wants us to have faith.

For a theory to be useful it has to predict things that are not predicted by other theories. Right now, Creationism has not been shown to be a useful theory in any scientific field so its not appropriate to teach it as science at this time.


141 posted on 06/14/2007 11:43:38 PM PDT by gondramB (Do not do to others as you would not wish done to yourself. Thus no murmuring will rise against you.)
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To: gondramB

where did you come up with that...that the creation theory predictions cannot be the same with any of the evolution predictions for it to be a thoery? If you honestly look at the science of creationism, there is much there. It does not impede faith to see that because the darkness is always working in our thoughts regardless of the evidence. That’s where we faith...to not fight the evil in our minds but watch it and let God to it. It’s already been defeated anyways.


142 posted on 06/14/2007 11:58:20 PM PDT by fabian
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To: gondramB
For a theory to be useful it has to predict things that are not predicted by other theories

So if a theory actually predicts that you wont find any evidence for it ... should the scientific community reject that theory as being non-scientific?

148 posted on 06/15/2007 7:42:43 AM PDT by dartuser ("If you torture the data long enough, it will confess, even to crimes it did not commit")
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To: gondramB
Two of the biggest questions human philosphers have been asking since man was created are unanswered by evolutionary theory.

What is the nature and origin of the forces that; 1) led to the genesis of life? (a chemistry motivated to propagate copies of itself) and 2) caused one tiny branch of those life-forms to near-instantaneously acquire a profoundly superior intelligence, a profoundly unique knowledge of God a subsequent creation of cultural evolution?

1) There is no explanation why some primordial sludge should ever acquire an impulsive "desire", "need", or compulsion to reproduce and make copies of itself. (they stunk anyway) and then be motivated to go on and conquer the world (viz. movie "The Blob" LOL).

There is certainly some force driving it. Nothing happens in nature without a force changing the state. A life force is as good a term as any to describe the redirection.

2) It is not understood how one particular primate species instantaneously acquired a superior intelligence and a knowledge of God and soul, but those characteristics have been wildly successful in advancing the goals of evolution for that species.

Culture is at the heart of the success and God is responsible. All cultural advancements are driven by and because of the knowledge of God. Its also interesting to note that the fundamental moralities and motivations that come with God are common across all human societies, no matter how isolated they were from each other. Just as amazingly they all "evolved" within the same small time period.

The big question then, why did one particular primate species suddenly decide to get smart, stop being a "chimpanzee" and begin worshipping God(s)?

The belief in God is the singular greatest feature that distinguishes us from atheist animals and the single greatest reason why we have become so successful and achieved such abundance.

Also since these human traits are so fantastically successful it is statistically unreasonable that no other species have evolved any similar characteristics. Why not?

[None of the evolutionary, atheist leaders, like Richard Dawkins have been able to explain it and they do acknowledge the strangeness of it all.]

God has driven man to adopt strategies, moralities and contrainstictual behavioural modalities (ooh cool term, it may deserve its own acronym, LOL) not found in other life forms.

The very idea of living life to gain reward after death is completely antithetical to base evolutionary theories. This alone suggests the need for science to consider additional process perturbations outside the current realm of scientific knowledge, such as "God", aliens, martians, whatever...)

160 posted on 06/16/2007 10:29:35 AM PDT by Mark Felton ("Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom...though it cost all you have get understanding" - Prov. 4)
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