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Majority of Republicans Doubt Theory of Evolution
Gallup News Service ^ | 11 June 2007 | Frank Newport

Posted on 06/11/2007 2:09:09 PM PDT by Alter Kaker

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To: RFC_Gal
Then why do Humans and great apes share the same defective gene that causes us to be unable to produce our own vitamin C?

I don't know, which also happens to be the answer to most questions concerning our existence.

241 posted on 06/11/2007 10:25:18 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound
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To: Alter Kaker
I believe that if Evolution exists, then God created it.
And for those who don't believe in God, you better be right.

Amen.

242 posted on 06/11/2007 10:33:25 PM PDT by MaxMax (God Bless America)
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To: curiosity
Has Evolution figured out how 'something' evolved from nothing? I don't see why you expect it to, given that it doesn't even attempt to address this question. Or life from non-life? Same answer as above. The theory of evolution doesn't address the question of how life arrose. It only deals with the question of how life changes over time.

Well, for it to answer that question (single cell to human being), it needs to be at least possible.

If it isn't even possible, then it is mere conjecture and imagination.

What is nonsense is the fairy tale that a single cell (which no one knows how it could come about), has 'evolved' into a human being.

Why is it nonsense? All human beings start their existence as single cells. That's true of you too.

They start their existence as single cells with human DNA.

That is growth, not evolution.

I know evolutionists like to confuse the two, along with adaptation within an species and claim that is 'evolution'.

Evolution is the change from one species into another, higher one.

And you can add any amount of zero's to the millions of years you want, it is utter nonsense. Please go study some geology. It just doesn't work that way.

And what does geology show about a single cell 'evolving' into a human being?

There is nothing in science that proves Evolution and you guys well know it.

You just want to believe in it.

So, to paraphrase Doyle, when you rule out the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be true.

Okay, so what's your point?

One is impossible, God or Evolution.

Let the Evolutionist write out the story of Evolution-in the beginning there was nothing and then there was something.

After millions and millions of years, from this 'something' came some sought of 'life'.

Millions of more years pass and that 'life' begins to develop into more complex life.

And then-mankind!

There are more miracles in Evolution then there are in Creation!

Evolution is a fairy tale for adults who want to believe that they will not face their Creator at a Judgment seat (Rev.20)

It's only a fairy tale to those who willfully ignore the evidence.

There is no evidence for Evolution, there are theories for it.

BTW, you still haven't offered a single argument to back up your original statement: Either God is impossible or Evolution is. I'm waiting.

Waiting for what?

Either God created the Universe or 'nature' did.

Is it possible for something to come from nothing?

For Life to come from non-life?

If it is possible then Evolution is possible and it is God who is impossible.

If not, and all of this around us demands the work of an intelligent Creator, (Ps.19), then it is Evolution that is the myth, not God.

243 posted on 06/11/2007 10:33:51 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: gondramB
>>So, to paraphrase Doyle, when you rule out the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be true.<<

It is an equal error to rule something out when one doesn’t understand it. Time after time science has advanced and explained things that were thought to be beyond human comprehension.

That is fine, but for Evolution to be true then it must at least be possible.

The Evolutionist must believe that 'nature' did indeed come from nothing.

That is beyond human comprehension.

244 posted on 06/11/2007 10:45:17 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: newgeezer
Some people (not me!) wish to think God created by evolution, that Genesis need not be taken literally (e.g. post #100), that macroevolution occurred with God’s guidance.

Yes, and 'Theistic Evolution' is simply a compromise solution that is rightly rejected by both sides.

27. Theistic Evolution--No Real Answers and a Barrel of Problems http://www.parentcompany.com/creation_essays/essay27.htm

Either God created the Universe as written, or it it is simply the product of 'Nature'.

245 posted on 06/11/2007 11:09:04 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (We must beat the Democrats or the country will be ruined! - Lincoln)
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To: Ben Mugged
Are you an athest?

No.

246 posted on 06/12/2007 12:08:22 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Theo; mnehrling
You’re in a dangerous place. You write, “Let the land produce..and the land produced..and the Earth brought forth” as though those were Scriptural references. I’m not finding anything in Scripture along those lines. I *am* finding where Scripture says that something reproduced “each according to its kind.”

They are Scriptural references, taken from the first chapter of Genesis:

11 And he said: Let the earth bring forth the green herb, and such as may seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind, which may have seed in itself upon the earth. And it was so done. 12 And the earth brought forth the green herb, and such as yieldeth seed according to its kind, and the tree that beareth fruit, having seed each one according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.

20 God also said: Let the waters bring forth the creeping creature having life, and the fowl that may fly over the earth under the firmament of heaven. 21 And God created the great whales, and every living and moving creature, which the waters brought forth, according to their kinds, and every winged fowl according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And he blessed them, saying: Increase and multiply, and fill the waters of the sea: and let the birds be multiplied upon the earth. 23 And the evening and morning were the fifth day.

24 And God said: Let the earth bring forth the living creature in its kind, cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth, according to their kinds. And it was so done. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds, and cattle, and every thing that creepeth on the earth after its kind. And God saw that it was good.

So, yes, the Bible does teach us that God commanded the earth and waters to bring forth and that the earth and waters brought forth as God commanded.

247 posted on 06/12/2007 12:13:19 AM PDT by pipeorganman
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To: Steve_Seattle
The authors of the creationist books are genarally highly intelligent and trained in the sciences and/or mathematics.

You mean like "Dr." Kent Hovind and "Dr." Ken Ham? The only subject most creationists seem to have down is educational embellishment. Oddly, these people, mostly two bit hucksters and miserable hypocrites, claim to be living the Word of the Almighty. You should view creationist claims of credentials with enormous skepticism.

Any idiot can believe in the theory of evolution; it's actually a very simplistic theory.

The basic concept of evolution is beautiful simplicity -- elegance so remarkable it seems nearly divine. But get into the details and evolutionary theory can be incredibly complicated.

248 posted on 06/12/2007 12:16:10 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

And the more creationists win polls within the GOP, the smaller the GOP gets. Isn’t that interesting? Maybe a different tack would be better.


249 posted on 06/12/2007 12:20:45 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: BuckeyeForever
In fact, if man descended from earlier primates, Christianity is disproved.

You mean that if allele frequencies change over time, then Jesus didn't die on the Cross? I don't profess to be an expert in Christian theology (it's not my religion, first of all), but I'm not sure I follow your reasoning.

250 posted on 06/12/2007 12:23:07 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: taxesareforever
In other words, you are suggesting that the party compromise what they believe is important in order to win races.

Since when has Creationism been a core belief of the Republican Party? This nonsense is new crap that has nothing to do with conservatism and everything to do with ignorance.

I would rather lose races than compromise my beliefs.

If one of those beliefs is support for the promotion of ignorance and the oppression of science, then you deserve to lose races and you will continue to, for you deserve no place near a position of power.

251 posted on 06/12/2007 12:29:44 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Popman
BTW, who is more educated, you or the Pope?

I'm not sure why you ask the question. Obviously it depends on the subject. I design satellites -- I wouldn't ask the Pope to do that. On the other hand I wouldn't presume to teach him Catechism.

In any event, I'm not sure why you bring the Pope up, since he is (for the most part) yet another supporter of science and evolution:

Pope Benedict 'believes in evolution'

252 posted on 06/12/2007 12:35:47 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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To: Alter Kaker
Since when has Creationism been a core belief of the Republican Party?

Since when wasn't it a core belief? Get out of the twilight zone. By the way, the GOP will not lose races because of a belief in creationism. That is the demorat party that you must be referring to.

253 posted on 06/12/2007 1:04:40 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: Alter Kaker

and 3 in 10 are RINOS.


254 posted on 06/12/2007 1:12:31 AM PDT by balch3
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To: pipeorganman
So, yes, the Bible does teach us that God commanded the earth and waters to bring forth and that the earth and waters brought forth as God commanded.

The problem with interpreting Genesis as an allusion to evolution is that it creates a dilemna.

Let's agree, for the sake of argument, that the phrases you point out, are indicative of what you say they are. That would logically infer that "days" is a metaphor for epochs, or great lengths of time. I don't agree with this interpretation, but I can understand how reasonable people might entertain such a notion. The problem lies with the phrase "according to it's/their kind," which, if we continue logically with the principles of our interpretation, would indicate "stasis of form" over the very same long periods of time, and that would contradict our first assumption, common descent, which is an inferred premise derived from the phrases you cite.

I'm sure many people here would disagree with me, and you're free to interpret Genesis as you see fit, but it seems to me that there is no rhyme or reason as to the method of this particular interpretation. It just doesn't make sense, and you have to step in and out of your own logical principles to maintain it.

A literal interpretation however, poses no such contradictions.

255 posted on 06/12/2007 1:54:53 AM PDT by csense
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To: tricky_k_1972

“Please be very careful with this “simplicity”. Christianity was used to suppress and attack Jews (Catholicism) and Christianity was also used as a justification for slavery (Protestantism [my father is a Methodist preacher whom told me about the North and South break up of the Church over slavery]).”

WHAT? Not believing in evolution is the same as attacking jews and slavery?! Thats just plain nuts.

The bible says God created and not life formed out of pond scum. Seems pretty simple to me.


256 posted on 06/12/2007 3:08:21 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: mnehrling

I totally agree. I don’t understand why people insist that God and science are opposites and that evolution can’t be the method of God’s work .


257 posted on 06/12/2007 3:14:04 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: weegee

I disagree there my friend . The general population is quite brainwashed these days about global warming. Gore’s propaganda film is required watching in most grammar schools . Soon there will be a whole generation believing in the religion of man made global warming.


258 posted on 06/12/2007 3:16:32 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: driftdiver

Why is created and evolution mutually exclusive.


259 posted on 06/12/2007 3:38:18 AM PDT by sonic109
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To: ndt
He might make sense, but what I want to know is does he also make microwave ovens, new antibiotics and missile defense shields? Science does.

Well, some might argue that the man that God created and endowed with a free will, is free to purse these challenges. Science would still exist whether man existed or not, but what a pity, if no one was here to marvel at all the things that God put into place.

Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus?

260 posted on 06/12/2007 3:48:40 AM PDT by itsahoot (The GOP did nothing about immigration, immigration did something about the GOP (As Predicted))
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