Posted on 06/11/2007 2:09:09 PM PDT by Alter Kaker
I don't know, which also happens to be the answer to most questions concerning our existence.
Amen.
Well, for it to answer that question (single cell to human being), it needs to be at least possible.
If it isn't even possible, then it is mere conjecture and imagination.
What is nonsense is the fairy tale that a single cell (which no one knows how it could come about), has 'evolved' into a human being.
Why is it nonsense? All human beings start their existence as single cells. That's true of you too.
They start their existence as single cells with human DNA.
That is growth, not evolution.
I know evolutionists like to confuse the two, along with adaptation within an species and claim that is 'evolution'.
Evolution is the change from one species into another, higher one.
And you can add any amount of zero's to the millions of years you want, it is utter nonsense. Please go study some geology. It just doesn't work that way.
And what does geology show about a single cell 'evolving' into a human being?
There is nothing in science that proves Evolution and you guys well know it.
You just want to believe in it.
So, to paraphrase Doyle, when you rule out the impossible, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be true.
Okay, so what's your point?
One is impossible, God or Evolution.
Let the Evolutionist write out the story of Evolution-in the beginning there was nothing and then there was something.
After millions and millions of years, from this 'something' came some sought of 'life'.
Millions of more years pass and that 'life' begins to develop into more complex life.
And then-mankind!
There are more miracles in Evolution then there are in Creation!
Evolution is a fairy tale for adults who want to believe that they will not face their Creator at a Judgment seat (Rev.20)
It's only a fairy tale to those who willfully ignore the evidence.
There is no evidence for Evolution, there are theories for it.
BTW, you still haven't offered a single argument to back up your original statement: Either God is impossible or Evolution is. I'm waiting.
Waiting for what?
Either God created the Universe or 'nature' did.
Is it possible for something to come from nothing?
For Life to come from non-life?
If it is possible then Evolution is possible and it is God who is impossible.
If not, and all of this around us demands the work of an intelligent Creator, (Ps.19), then it is Evolution that is the myth, not God.
It is an equal error to rule something out when one doesnt understand it. Time after time science has advanced and explained things that were thought to be beyond human comprehension.
That is fine, but for Evolution to be true then it must at least be possible.
The Evolutionist must believe that 'nature' did indeed come from nothing.
That is beyond human comprehension.
Yes, and 'Theistic Evolution' is simply a compromise solution that is rightly rejected by both sides.
27. Theistic Evolution--No Real Answers and a Barrel of Problems http://www.parentcompany.com/creation_essays/essay27.htm
Either God created the Universe as written, or it it is simply the product of 'Nature'.
No.
They are Scriptural references, taken from the first chapter of Genesis:
11 And he said: Let the earth bring forth the green herb, and such as may seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after its kind, which may have seed in itself upon the earth. And it was so done. 12 And the earth brought forth the green herb, and such as yieldeth seed according to its kind, and the tree that beareth fruit, having seed each one according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
20 God also said: Let the waters bring forth the creeping creature having life, and the fowl that may fly over the earth under the firmament of heaven. 21 And God created the great whales, and every living and moving creature, which the waters brought forth, according to their kinds, and every winged fowl according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. 22 And he blessed them, saying: Increase and multiply, and fill the waters of the sea: and let the birds be multiplied upon the earth. 23 And the evening and morning were the fifth day.
24 And God said: Let the earth bring forth the living creature in its kind, cattle and creeping things, and beasts of the earth, according to their kinds. And it was so done. 25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds, and cattle, and every thing that creepeth on the earth after its kind. And God saw that it was good.
So, yes, the Bible does teach us that God commanded the earth and waters to bring forth and that the earth and waters brought forth as God commanded.
You mean like "Dr." Kent Hovind and "Dr." Ken Ham? The only subject most creationists seem to have down is educational embellishment. Oddly, these people, mostly two bit hucksters and miserable hypocrites, claim to be living the Word of the Almighty. You should view creationist claims of credentials with enormous skepticism.
Any idiot can believe in the theory of evolution; it's actually a very simplistic theory.
The basic concept of evolution is beautiful simplicity -- elegance so remarkable it seems nearly divine. But get into the details and evolutionary theory can be incredibly complicated.
And the more creationists win polls within the GOP, the smaller the GOP gets. Isn’t that interesting? Maybe a different tack would be better.
You mean that if allele frequencies change over time, then Jesus didn't die on the Cross? I don't profess to be an expert in Christian theology (it's not my religion, first of all), but I'm not sure I follow your reasoning.
Since when has Creationism been a core belief of the Republican Party? This nonsense is new crap that has nothing to do with conservatism and everything to do with ignorance.
I would rather lose races than compromise my beliefs.
If one of those beliefs is support for the promotion of ignorance and the oppression of science, then you deserve to lose races and you will continue to, for you deserve no place near a position of power.
I'm not sure why you ask the question. Obviously it depends on the subject. I design satellites -- I wouldn't ask the Pope to do that. On the other hand I wouldn't presume to teach him Catechism.
In any event, I'm not sure why you bring the Pope up, since he is (for the most part) yet another supporter of science and evolution:
Since when wasn't it a core belief? Get out of the twilight zone. By the way, the GOP will not lose races because of a belief in creationism. That is the demorat party that you must be referring to.
and 3 in 10 are RINOS.
The problem with interpreting Genesis as an allusion to evolution is that it creates a dilemna.
Let's agree, for the sake of argument, that the phrases you point out, are indicative of what you say they are. That would logically infer that "days" is a metaphor for epochs, or great lengths of time. I don't agree with this interpretation, but I can understand how reasonable people might entertain such a notion. The problem lies with the phrase "according to it's/their kind," which, if we continue logically with the principles of our interpretation, would indicate "stasis of form" over the very same long periods of time, and that would contradict our first assumption, common descent, which is an inferred premise derived from the phrases you cite.
I'm sure many people here would disagree with me, and you're free to interpret Genesis as you see fit, but it seems to me that there is no rhyme or reason as to the method of this particular interpretation. It just doesn't make sense, and you have to step in and out of your own logical principles to maintain it.
A literal interpretation however, poses no such contradictions.
“Please be very careful with this “simplicity”. Christianity was used to suppress and attack Jews (Catholicism) and Christianity was also used as a justification for slavery (Protestantism [my father is a Methodist preacher whom told me about the North and South break up of the Church over slavery]).”
WHAT? Not believing in evolution is the same as attacking jews and slavery?! Thats just plain nuts.
The bible says God created and not life formed out of pond scum. Seems pretty simple to me.
I totally agree. I don’t understand why people insist that God and science are opposites and that evolution can’t be the method of God’s work .
I disagree there my friend . The general population is quite brainwashed these days about global warming. Gore’s propaganda film is required watching in most grammar schools . Soon there will be a whole generation believing in the religion of man made global warming.
Why is created and evolution mutually exclusive.
Well, some might argue that the man that God created and endowed with a free will, is free to purse these challenges. Science would still exist whether man existed or not, but what a pity, if no one was here to marvel at all the things that God put into place.
Rom 9:20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus?
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