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Base to GOP: Hasta la Vista, Baby! [Tough To Lead When You Have No Base Left]
TownHall ^ | June 11, 2007 | Ken Conner

Posted on 06/11/2007 11:34:03 AM PDT by conservativecorner

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To: Biblebelter
The small donors may not give the big bucks that NWO corporations do, but the small donors represent lots of votes as well.

This is one fact politicians tend to lose sight of after being in office awhile. The corporations and large entities that donate tons of cash don't vote. It's the people who vote.

All that cash may make for a grand campaign, but it's the voters who choose the candidates, then elect them. Once you marginalize the voter, your campaign is dead no matter how much cash it has.

41 posted on 06/11/2007 1:48:14 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: bcsco

Well said....I think they are about to get a big shock when working class democrats kick ‘em all in the chops too.


42 posted on 06/11/2007 1:57:48 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: DesScorp

From your lips to God’s ears BUMP!


43 posted on 06/11/2007 1:57:49 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: stephenjohnbanker
Either we stand up to them, or we are finished!

that is exactly right....vanquished without a shot fired.

future warrior civilizations will laugh at how quickly we went from lion to lemming...

44 posted on 06/11/2007 1:58:40 PM PDT by wardaddy (on parole)
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To: wardaddy

What are these jackasses message to the conservative base anyway?...Sell out your kids future for the sake of big business???...Kiss my A#@!


45 posted on 06/11/2007 2:03:41 PM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: kjo
If the Dems don’t win the White House next year they never will win it again.

I don't agree. You must be an unemployed soothsayer.

46 posted on 06/11/2007 2:05:41 PM PDT by Ron H. (Another American Civil War - is it inevitable? Keep your powder dry!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
Well said....I think they are about to get a big shock when working class democrats kick ‘em all in the chops too.

It's no secret that GOP money has been drying up. The GOP fired all their telemarketers recently under the guise that the phone system was antiquated. But the telemarketers claimed donations were off by 40% or more.

I have to believe the DNC is also suffering. They're just a lot better at hiding it. While the unions themselves may be anxious for the bill to pass, I doubt the rank-and-file are. And I doubt many every-day Democrats are happy with their party over this. Not when polls show only 23% of Americans favor the bill.

47 posted on 06/11/2007 2:07:00 PM PDT by bcsco
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To: AngelesCrestHighway

“What are these jackasses message to the conservative base anyway?...Sell out your kids future for the sake of big business???...Kiss my A#@!”

That is exactly the message!


48 posted on 06/11/2007 2:07:08 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
"Sell out your kids future for the sake of big business???...Kiss my A#@!"

Hear! Hear!

That's all this amounts to. It's the death (aka estate) tax on a national scale. The security, liberty and prosperity our forbears bequeathed to us is being seized at the point of a gun and redistributed to others - others whose culture portends not a prudent use of such wealth, but a squandering of it.

That flushing sound you hear is America and all the grandeur and greatness she once possessed.

49 posted on 06/11/2007 2:32:08 PM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: conservativecorner

“Republican blue bloods, on the other hand, have been largely bemused at the reaction of the base to the immigration debacle. They don’t understand what the fuss is all about. Putting profits over people is a concept they are comfortable with. They have been doing it in their businesses for years. They aren’t impacted in the same way as the base by the tax burden associated with immigration. After all, they have tax advisors and accountants who get paid to find loopholes. Jobs? They don’t need them, they provide them. And if they can get a lower wage worker to fill them, that just means more money going to the bottom line. Preferential treatment? They are accustomed to getting it for themselves and their designees. Social implications? They don’t worry about them. In the circles in which they move, they aren’t exposed to an underclass. Common language? Among the elites, cash is the universal language, and if a foreign language is spoken, it is usually French, not Spanish. “

Wall Street journal, Tony Snow, Fred Barnes, Chamber of Commerce, et,al.


50 posted on 06/11/2007 2:35:20 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker ( Hunter/Thompson/Thompson/Hunter in 08! "Read my lips....No new RINO's" !!)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
What are these jackasses message to the conservative base anyway?...Sell out your kids future for the sake of big business???...Kiss my A#@!

I'm in no mood to finesse my answer either, so I will agree with your comment 100% and give it a big BUMP!
51 posted on 06/11/2007 2:53:26 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (I'm Fred, White and Blue!)
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To: conservativecorner

Just say NO to Amnesty!! Keep calling!! It’s NOT OVER!!

U.S. Senate switchboard: (202) 224-3121

U.S. House switchboard: (202) 225-3121

White House comments: (202) 456-1111

Find your House Rep.: http://www.house.gov/writerep

Find your US Senators: http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm


52 posted on 06/11/2007 3:26:45 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Fred Thompson/John Bolton 2008)
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To: AngelesCrestHighway; calcowgirl; ellery; heleny; marsh2; kellynla; dalereed; tubebender; ...
Well... Just don't forget! We need to do the same thing to old Lame Duck Schwartzenrenegger here in CA until he too becomes a dead duck politically!!!

No! I don't even want him in the US Senate!! He'll be just as slimey a RINO as Lindsay Graham!!! (He and Teddy will try to rule the planet from that creepy club!!!)

53 posted on 06/11/2007 3:39:49 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not just "in contempt of CONgress," now I'm in contempt of all 3 branches of our governments!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
He'll be just as slimey a RINO as Lindsay Graham!!!

He'll make Graham look like a right-wing zealot.

54 posted on 06/11/2007 3:43:03 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (When toilet paper is a luxury, you have achieved communism.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Yer RIGHT! (HI FIVES!!!)

Din'tcha see what I said about him an Uncle Ted loungin around in their Senatorial PJ's together??? (snark!)

55 posted on 06/11/2007 4:28:30 PM PDT by SierraWasp (I'm not just "in contempt of CONgress," now I'm in contempt of all 3 branches of our governments!!!)
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To: conservativecorner
Some excellent points in this piece:

Republican blue bloods, on the other hand, have been largely bemused at the reaction of the base to the immigration debacle. They don't understand what the fuss is all about.

Putting profits over people is a concept they are comfortable with. They have been doing it in their businesses for years. They aren't impacted in the same way as the base by the tax burden associated with immigration. After all, they have tax advisors and accountants who get paid to find loopholes.

Jobs? They don't need them, they provide them. And if they can get a lower wage worker to fill them, that just means more money going to the bottom line.

Preferential treatment? They are accustomed to getting it for themselves and their designees.

Social implications? They don't worry about them. In the circles in which they move, they aren't exposed to an underclass.

Common language? Among the elites, cash is the universal language, and if a foreign language is spoken, it is usually French, not Spanish.

56 posted on 06/11/2007 6:24:46 PM PDT by Pelham (deport and impeach)
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To: Chi-townChief

I’d say since ‘89-’90.


57 posted on 06/11/2007 6:26:43 PM PDT by Pelham (deport and impeach)
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To: umgud
If you go to DU and other lib forums, you’ll find that the comments on immigration threads look just like they do here at FR, but also like us, they are carping on the republicans much more than their own dem leadership.

We need to make a deal with the liberal border hawks. We beat the hell out of the GOP quislings, they beat the hell out of the Democrat quislings.

After we have secured the border, deported illegals, impeached the quislings, then we can back to beating the hell out of each other.

58 posted on 06/11/2007 6:45:21 PM PDT by Pelham (deport and impeach)
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To: Pelham

I see popularism being the defining theme of the 2008 Presidential Race. It’s not Republicans and Democrats or Conservatives or Liberals but elitists VS. all of the above.

Politics and our two party system are an illusionary narcotic to the masses. We are all so busy arguing with each other that none of see we are all being hosed.

I’m not saying various groups don’t have their differences, but at this point we had all better wake up to the fact that they are turning this country into a banana republic.


59 posted on 06/11/2007 7:03:09 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Pelham

LOL BUMP!


60 posted on 06/11/2007 7:27:14 PM PDT by conservativecorner
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