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To: mountainfolk

“Without legislation to stop the continued flow of illegals into this country, you will have many more.”

Thankfully, the legislation that can cut the flow of illegals by 95% was passed in the last Congress. It’s the 800 mile border fence. BUILD IT AND THEY WON’T COME.

“Killing this legislation is tantamount to giving amnesty to those already here. “
McCain tried that lie out, but it has a big logical hole:
If amnesty/legalization is not a good thing, then WHY IS GIVING AMNESTY A GOOD THING?!?! You cannot be against amnesty and for this bill. The ‘de facto’ amnesty claim is a claim that govt cannot deport people today. That is a lie. The Govt can deport people, but it WONT. It WONT build the wall. It WONT enforce the law.

This bad Senate bill lets 12 million people stay, for a small fee. It does NOTHING to deport anybody, in fact it WEAKENS deportation ability. The comprehensive bill is designed and built to fail.

“One would almost come to the conclusion that the rabid attacks on President Bush were for the purpose of making sure nothing gets done to stop illegal immigration.”

One would be wrong. ALL BUSH HAS TO DO IS BUILD THE BORDER FENCE AND ENFORCE THE LAW. No new laws are needed to do much much better on this issue than status quo. Bush has failed spectacularly from showing any interest in enforcing the law properly.


282 posted on 06/11/2007 12:52:33 PM PDT by WOSG (Stop Illegal Immigration. Call your Senator today. Senate Switchboard at 202-224-3121.))
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To: WOSG; mountainfolk

> This bad Senate bill lets 12 million people stay, for a small fee. It does NOTHING to deport anybody, in fact it WEAKENS deportation ability. The comprehensive bill is designed and built to fail.

Exactly. It’s as if we had a rampant theft problem, and we tried to address it NOT BY ENFORCING THE LAW, but by saying thieves could register themselves for a small fee and get their records cleared eventually.

Yeah. That would work. /s


286 posted on 06/11/2007 1:16:53 PM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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To: WOSG

If amnesty can be defined by your anti Bush side as an undeported illegal, then is it not amnesty if they can stay here anyway? I do not think that this is a good bill, but I disagree that one is not needed. Do you think that the govt can deport 12 million illegals, or whatever number is currently in play, without huge intervention from every corner of the legal establishment? You cannot pick and choose who will have to go unless they all are rounded up simultaneously and a ‘a trail of tears’ ensues. President Bush is not a king or a dictator, he works thru our elected representatives, tho that is what it would take to satisfy his no compromise haters. Nothing will be enforced unless there is a consensus, codified by legislation, about what the immigration rules will be.


294 posted on 06/11/2007 3:09:37 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God Bless President George Bush)
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