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Bush says immigration bill will survive
AP on Yahoo ^ | June 11 2007 | JENNIFER LOVEN

Posted on 06/11/2007 7:20:30 AM PDT by VictoryGal

SOFIA, Bulgaria - President Bush, turning from adulation in the Balkans to difficulties back home, said Monday that his stalled immigration overhaul would be revived and his embattled attorney general would not fall under a Senate vote of no-confidence. ADVERTISEMENT

"I'll see you at the bill signing," Bush said confidently about an immigration bill that has run into deep trouble on Capitol Hill.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; elpresidentebushy; illegal; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; popularinalbania; vampirebill
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To: guitfiddlist

The EU also. It’s like the world is lining up. Asia, EU, Middle East alignments and SPP. That leaves Israel. Gee, I think I’ve read about that somewhere before..


121 posted on 06/11/2007 8:04:00 AM PDT by small voice in the wilderness ( Bumper sticker idea: Hillary/Obama Nation '08. Let the desolation begin)
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To: George W. Bush
14th Amendment

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."

That is very clear. Any bill that attempts to change subvert the constitution should be considered null. For Ron Paul to introduce legislation that ignores the constitution seemingly destroys his own argument against the WOT.
122 posted on 06/11/2007 8:04:09 AM PDT by Durus ("Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." JFK)
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To: gpapa
It is extremely hard to understand why Bush keeps pushing the Senate amnesty bill or any variation thereof. If there is any political benefit in passing such a bill

Plenty of Republicans are dumb enough to believe that amnesty will secure the Hispanic vote, never mind that Hispanics have never been a swing vote (Reagan in '84 and Bush in '04 received no more than approx. 35% of the Latino electorate, and those were high-water marks for the GOP) and that Hispanic Republicans are overwhelmingly anti-amnesty.

The La Raza Republicans are looking forward to that which comes after they leave Congress - appointments to cushy jobs like judgeships and ambassadorships offered by Bush or a Pres. McCain or Giuliani, or lobbyist jobs offered by the business interests demanding cheap labor. For instance, if Chuck Hagel is ousted, look for him to become a lobbyist for the meatpacking industry.

The La Raza Republicans have heard an earful from their constituents when they've gone out among normal people. The opinions they really care about, however, are those of their cronies at the country club.

123 posted on 06/11/2007 8:05:22 AM PDT by jhs80
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To: Lazamataz

bttt


124 posted on 06/11/2007 8:05:23 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The most bizarre, unexplainable thing in Clinton's bizarre Presidency was his trip to China to pay homage to his benefactors.

I would have gone with Elián González. At least China coughed up lots of money and support for Clinton.

What did the only illegal alien the government has hated in the last generation do to deserve to merit the personal attention of a full SWAT team goon squad?

125 posted on 06/11/2007 8:06:16 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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To: Red6
What are you talking about Terri Schievo for, our base supported the Republicans trying to stop an innocent woman from being put to death by her evil husband. I think you are a troll.
126 posted on 06/11/2007 8:06:29 AM PDT by jmj3jude
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To: TommyDale
Instead of wrapping amnesty in terms like "guest worker" or "compassion", I sometimes wish Bush would just come out and say why he is pursuing this, but I figure he & his advisers have determined that we can't handle the truth.

The simple fact of the matter is that for whatever reason, Bush chose not to prosecute dissidents of the WoT. Without firm media support, he needed to isolate foreign policy from domestic criticism regarding the economy.

So what's the guaranteed, sure fire way of growing an economy? Is it tax cuts, low interest rates or expanded money supply? No, the absolute, never fail way is to simply increase the gross number of mouths.

More people means more demand for housing, transportation, food, energy, etc. IOW, sheer numbers cycle through the entire economy. Now, granted, if you get less productive people, a disparity will result from short-term unemployment/income (eg the often touted 4% unemployment), and longer-term social welfare costs/balance sheet items (ie hospital closings, prison/school overcrowding). That's the beauty of accounting: you push balance sheet items onto the next generation, long after you've gone.

To recap, this all gets back to the WoT; Bush cannot afford a recession, which is exactly what we'd get if we shipped home 12-20m illegals. However, if we don't ship them home, we'll lose the very cultural heritage our ancestors built (and died) for our OWN benefit & welfare.

Bush essentially financed his foreign policy actions with 'credit card debt', for which we now have to pay the price in either losing the WoT or losing our country. He will go down in history as the most disastrous president in the history of the US.

However, there is one out, but it is so bold & decisive, it may well take a new president to enact. Simply put, while we should drive out the 20m illegals, we should simultaneously open up Z visas/guest workers to 10m Indians & 10m Chinese. This would not only serve to dampen the net demand effect of losing 20m consumers, but it would bring in more diverse, higher value-add immigrants.

Of course, it will never happen, but what the hey.

127 posted on 06/11/2007 8:06:41 AM PDT by Chuck Dent
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To: VictoryGal
President Bush:

Take your pick.

Either the imbecilic illegal immigrant amnesty bill survives, or you do!

Why continally thwart the will of the people who supported your presidency twice?

If you persist in you misguided obsession your 'library' will be viewed with the same degree of disdain as is the Clinton Library and Massage Parlor!

Stop!

128 posted on 06/11/2007 8:06:58 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: jhs80

I wonder what Bush would see if we put a UAV orbiting over our southern border.


129 posted on 06/11/2007 8:07:03 AM PDT by wastedyears (Check my profile for links to anti-illegal immigration T-shirts.)
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To: VictoryGal

The National Intelligence Reform Act included the requirement to add 10,000 border patrol agents in the five years beginning with 2006. Only 210 new border agents have been funded. 2/10ths of 1%.

The Secure Fence bill included the requirement to construct 700 miles of secure border barrier, of which only two miles of new and nine miles of repaired structure has been put in place. 3/10ths of 1%.

This American holds out little hope any enforcement provision will be given even so much as a half-assed effort - say tops a 3/10ths of 1% effort. Until what was already promised, negotiated, and enacted into law becomes reality, I don’t see how Americans can do anything but look upon those on Capitol Hill with disdain and shame.

American Patriots are saying, “We simply do not trust you. Prove you’re worth our trust, fulfill your obligations. Otherwise, accept your well earned vote of no confidence.”


130 posted on 06/11/2007 8:07:07 AM PDT by azhenfud (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: VictoryGal

It was almost like a bad SNL or MadTV script last week:

Scene in Senate:

Kennedy in the Senate well, giving a floor speech supporting this bill. He is ranting and raving and blaming the Republican administrations [which would be Reagan and Bush2 for failing to secure the borders since 1986.

Kennedy is stabbing Bush in the back [again] in a floor speech.

Scene almost simultaneous with Bush:

Media switches to Bush giving a speech praising Kennedy for his hard work and effort in pushing this amnesty bill through the Senate.


Scrappleface couldn’t make that up.

And, watching it, who do you get mad at? Kennedy for stabbing Bush in the back in the speech? Or Bush for praising Kennedy while Kennedy is stabbing him in the back.

It is surreal.


131 posted on 06/11/2007 8:08:19 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: All

If this immigration bill survives, our nation will not, at least not as it has been historically. It will be a balkanized lawless nation and may even end in Civil War.

Nothing is to be gained by this bill except for cheap labor for big business and another step toward a North American Union. Nothing in it for Americans, only foreigners. We must defeat it


132 posted on 06/11/2007 8:08:51 AM PDT by rolling_stone (sOME)
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To: cuky
Your comments are sick and over the line, as so sadly, many are here.

I agree with you in respect to what VG stated.

I must admit, however, that our president is making me sick at my stomach!

133 posted on 06/11/2007 8:09:26 AM PDT by GFritsch ('All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved'." -)
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To: Tammy8
President Bush has been giving all Americans the finger on this issue for a while now. Every time he said "jobs americans won't do" I felt like I was being slapped in the face by the President.

I feel slapped in the face over that comment too. We've always been a nation where the dignity of a job was what you brought to the job, not the work itself. Bush is talking like some European elitist. There's no frigging nobility here.

Europe has the problems they have because they bring in their inferiors to do the sh_t work. How insulting. In this country we don't need second class citizens. We don't need slaves, we don't need to feel superior to other humans because our job has more status. We're a nation of equals. Bush must think he's better than the rest of us to if that's his standard. Maybe he thinks the jobs the rest of us do are too good for him... maybe he's not a citizen representative, but a king -- nobility -- better than the rest of us.

Personally, I think Bush is betraying the principles this country was founded on.

134 posted on 06/11/2007 8:09:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (We are NOT a nation of immigrants, we are a nation of Americans - legal, assimilated and proud-Laney)
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To: cuky
Your comments are sick and over the line, as so sadly, many are here.

Supporting Bush is what's sick and over the line.

He can go back to Crawford in disgrace. Or go farther south to collect his thirty pieces of silver.
135 posted on 06/11/2007 8:10:30 AM PDT by George W. Bush (Rudi & McVain: tough on terror, scared of Iowa)
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To: Lazamataz
Understand this: He does not give a shit.

In spades!

136 posted on 06/11/2007 8:10:31 AM PDT by processing please hold (Duncan Hunter '08) (ROP and Open Borders-a terrorist marriage and hell's coming with them)
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To: dfwgator

What a slap in the face - better yet - a taunt, to us the taxpayers who have made our wishes known loud and clear.

I’m with you, see you at the impeachment.


137 posted on 06/11/2007 8:10:54 AM PDT by Lijahsbubbe (President Bush - The Enabler)
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To: Moose4
This Man Is Up To His EYEBALLS In Debt To Someone!

The American Citizens Should VOTE On This Issue!

138 posted on 06/11/2007 8:11:07 AM PDT by OKC Patriot ("Never Forget"!)
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To: Squantos; hiredhand; verity; Larry Lucido; sit-rep

ping


139 posted on 06/11/2007 8:11:13 AM PDT by Covenantor (Americas' Fifth column is in the White House and Capitol)
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To: cuky

What, exactly, is the downside of having Bush impeached?


140 posted on 06/11/2007 8:11:15 AM PDT by null and void (Wherever liberty has sprouted around the world, we find its seeds were watered with American blood)
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