Posted on 06/08/2007 2:59:53 PM PDT by joanie-f
Information is irrelevant.
All the more reason to raise the clarion voice and toll the bell to avoid losing it as a result of those dangers. It is, in fact, how we avoid it, by remaining vigilant and acting to thwart what would threaten our liberties and its attendant blessings.
That's really what Joanie is doing.
If someone from today were transported back in time to the “good ol’ days” of, say, the late 1800s, they would would be MISERABLE. First of all, no toilet paper. The closest approximation to it back then were the Sears Roebuck catalog pages. Poor public health in that you couldn’t trust your drinking water not to be infected with cholera. The cities smelled horrible because the horses defecated and urinated all over the streets. In the country you would be isolated since no electricity or communication other than the post office. Child labor. Also almost every adult lost their teeth by age 40. And no hanky panky fooling around or you could easily catch an incurable social disease that could drive you crazy like what happened to Winston Churchill’s father. Yeah, the “good ol’ days.”
Just a reminder to remind the Senate that there is a good immigration REFORM bill languishing in committee!
Common Sense ‘ENFORCE ACT’ introduced By Sen. Inhofe
Major Provisions in Inhofe’s ENFORCE Act:
· Establishes the National Border Neighborhood Watch (NBNW) Program allowing retired law enforcement officers to assist Border Patrol agents by reporting illegal border crossings.
· Makes unlawful-presence in the United States a felony.
· Establishes an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) office in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
· Authorizes funding for online immigration training for state and local law enforcement officers.
· **** Eliminates the practice of granting automatic U.S. citizenship to children born to illegal immigrants in an effort to reduce ‘anchor babies.’******
· Establishes an independent verification system for Social Security numbers; also mandates that immigrant’s Social Security numbers expire when visa runs out.
· Establishes electronic birth & death registries to fight fraudulent Social Security cards
· Helps reduce Individual Taxpayer Identification Number abuse.
· Empowers state & local law enforcement to carryout immigration laws (but does not make it mandatory).
· Establishes penalties for most flagrant employer tax violations—i.e. if an employer willfully files incorrect tax returns, they will be assessed the maximum penalties available.
· Makes it illegal to operate day laborer centers for illegal aliens and to give them unemployment assistance.
· Eliminates in-state tuition benefits for illegal aliens. ###
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1837422/posts
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-1269
Thanx for another reminder about this being actually a pretty good time. Due in LARGE part to the Internet, citizens were able to band together and cause their reps to DEFEAT the lousy immigration bill.
The challenges, though augmented by todays technology and communication, were also very similar. Immorality, dieases, criminals, tyranny, etc., etc.
If someone were teleported from today back...they would be uncomfortable due largely to what they were used to. But I am confidant that the vast majority would learn to cope...and because of their knowledge, would improve the conditions of that time. Then there children would grow up in that time, knowing the challenges and blessings of their day and do what they had to to face the former, while reaching for, protecting, and enjoying the latter to the best of their ability.
Just like we should do today.
Facing the challenges and being empowered to overcome them means, ultimately talking directly and clearly about them. Again, that's what Joanie is doing with this thread.
You may disagree with or even argue with her delivery...but I know her and her family personally and that is what she is doing, and we are blessed to have such voices amongst us.
Apples and oranges.
You see, the economy might have been worse, but America was much more *united* even then, than it is now, and they came out of it even more united as a country.
If the economy now imploded, it would make what occurred in the Great Depression appear like a peaceful walk in the park.
You don't appear to understand what is occurring, nor do you have a feel for the mood of this country.
Read John Steinbeck's In Dubious Battle or Grapes of Wrath. The country was VERY divided back then. Communist subversion was in full swing in those days. We see those times thru a hazy gauze of nostalgia but they certainly weren't warm fuzzy times.
You don't appear to understand what is occurring, nor do you have a feel for the mood of this country.
I'm out and about constantly. Remember all the student protests of the 1960s? Well, I visit campuses a lot and guess what? Very little campus protests. More activism by the faculty but that's about all. Most of the leftwing outrage you see is pretty much confined to the Web.
I'm out and about constantly. Remember all the student protests of the 1960s?
You seem in denial. In the 60s you had 12 year olds against the war, along with most of the younger crowed in college. Unlike now where the huge majority of "adults" and "tax payers" are against this war, or are very happy with the way it's being run".
Unlike now where the huge majority of “adults” and “tax payers” are against this war, or are very *UNhappy* with the way it’s being run”.
Things are changing quickly in Iraq. Even the WaPo now has an article about the Sunnis turning on Al Qaeda.
Right.
No sweat, joanie -- we think so much alike it's scary...
They aren't leaders, they are losers. And no I don't trust any of them.
I'm out and about constantly. Remember all the student protests of the 1960s?
You seem in denial. In the 60s you had 12 year olds against the war, along with most of the younger crowed in college.
Unlike now where the huge majority of "adults" and "tax payers" are against this war, *or* are very unhappy with the way it's being run".
Things are changing quickly in Iraq. Even the WaPo now has an article about the Sunnis turning on Al Qaeda.
This is the last paragraph of the link provided. You consider this encouraging?
The tank driver, Spec. Estevan Altamirano, 25, expressed skepticism about his new partners. "Pretty soon they run out of al-Qaeda, and then they're going to turn on us," he said. "I don't want to get used to them and then I have an AK behind my back. I'm not going to trust them at all."
As I said earlier, you seem in denial.
I myself have often argued for repeal of the Seventeenth Amendment, but I have never considered increasing the size of the house. That suggestion is absolute brilliance.
Both your three reforms, and your brief but powerful arguments in their favor, would go a long way toward making our leadership more accountable to the people, which, unfortunately, leads a thinking man to believe they haven’t got a snowball’s chance in hell of happening.
Nonetheless, thanks for the dose of intelligent analysis and common sense. :)
~ joanie
I intend, as do you, to remain ‘pesky’ till death.
Thanks!
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