[mnehring]

You sure have been pimping the Dems today:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1846511/posts

Don’t you think they are saying these things simply to pander.. do you honestly believe the dems believe this? This was, after all, a mostly democrat bill.

Don’t think for a second they wouldn’t try to get this bill passed if they didn’t see a chance to try to split our side even more than they have already.

[EEDUDE]

He’s a lot more honest than most of our Rep senators have been.

He authored the amendment that sunsets the guest worker bill.

I’d vote for the man over most of the R’s I’ve heard speak on the issue.

[goldfinch]

Don’t you think they are saying these things simply to pander.. do you honestly believe the dems believe this?

I believe Dorgan actually believes this. I think most Democrats are drooling over this bill because it will greatly increase the number of unskilled and uneducated citizens who will vote for Democrats.

I don't mind giving credit to the Senators of either party when they right about an issue.

[Moose4]

Don’t you think they are saying these things simply to pander.. do you honestly believe the dems believe this?

Some might. There's a subset of the Rats that are fiercely pro-union and pro-"labor", for lack of a better term. Dorgan and avowed Socialist Bernie Sanders from Vermont are two of them. They're still borderline Commies and nanny-staters, but they're coming at this bill from the anti-capitalist side of things.

I don't think it's so much that people like Dorgan oppose shamnesty. They'd probably love a total blanket amnesty for every illegal in the country. What they don't like is the creation of what they see as a permanent underclass to be exploited. And, of course, they don't like that eeeeeeevil businessmen will make eeeeeeeevil profits. They're wealth redistributors, after all.

}:-)4

[Osage Orange]

I SECOND your post....

Something stinks here.....