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To: mnehrling
Don’t you think they are saying these things simply to pander.. do you honestly believe the dems believe this?

Some might. There's a subset of the Rats that are fiercely pro-union and pro-"labor", for lack of a better term. Dorgan and avowed Socialist Bernie Sanders from Vermont are two of them. They're still borderline Commies and nanny-staters, but they're coming at this bill from the anti-capitalist side of things.

I don't think it's so much that people like Dorgan oppose shamnesty. They'd probably love a total blanket amnesty for every illegal in the country. What they don't like is the creation of what they see as a permanent underclass to be exploited. And, of course, they don't like that eeeeeeevil businessmen will make eeeeeeeevil profits. They're wealth redistributors, after all.

}:-)4

49 posted on 06/07/2007 5:16:20 PM PDT by Moose4 (Just junk all across the horizon, a real highwayman's farewell...)
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To: Moose4; mnehrling
And, of course, they don't like that eeeeeeevil businessmen will make eeeeeeeevil profits. They're wealth redistributors, after all.

Excellent point. Although I most definitely do not support this bill, there appear to be an awful lot of Freepers who seem to have absolutely no problem using the full force and weight of the Federal government as long is it "protects" what they want.

I hate this bill on law-and-order grounds (uhhh, what part of illegal don't the amnesty supporters get), but still cringe a little bit when I hear conservatives begging for the government to save them from Leftist boogeymen like "wage suppression" and "multi-national corporations."

62 posted on 06/07/2007 5:37:06 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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