Posted on 06/03/2007 1:07:14 PM PDT by RKV
LAST February, Jim Zumbo, a burly, 66-year-old outdoors writer, got a phone call at his home near Cody, Wyo., from the rock star and outspoken Second Amendment champion Ted Nugent. You messed up, man, Mr. Zumbo says Mr. Nugent told him. Big time.
Leland A. Nichols, left, an executive at Smith & Wesson in Springfield, Mass., and John Kapusta, an engineering manager, with an M&P 15 rifle. Such rifles have been crucial to the companys turnaround plans.
Two days earlier, Mr. Zumbo, a leading hunting journalist, outraged Mr. Nugent and many other gun owners when he suggested in a blog post that increasingly popular semiautomatic guns known as black rifles be banned from hunting. Mr. Zumbo, stunned that hunters were using the rifles for sport, also suggested giving the guns, prized for their matte black metal finishes, molded plastic parts and combat-ready looks, a new name: terrorist rifles.
Gun enthusiasts backlash against Mr. Zumbo was swift. He parted company with his employer, Outdoor Life magazine. Mr. Zumbo says on his Web site that he was terminated; the magazine says that it and Mr. Zumbo agreed that he would resign.
But a week after hearing from Mr. Nugent, who has a devoted following among gun owners, Mr. Zumbo visited him in Waco, Tex., to make amends. For his part, Mr. Nugent was prepared to give Mr. Zumbo a lesson on the utility and ubiquity of black rifles.
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Its highly unlikely that any legislation to move an assault weapons ban is going to happen, says Kristen Rand, legislative director at the Violence Policy Center, a gun-control lobbying group. Thats the sad reality on the Hill right now.
ONLY IF WE KEEP THE POLITICIANS FEET TO THE FIRE BOYS
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
The second admendment wasn’t for hunting.....
Animals that is....
Copy that 08. An en-bloc is a clip, a stripper is a clip, a tube is a magazine and a box magazine is a magazine.
What I was getting at is my annoyance at the way some people never miss an opportunity to correct people about it. I'm becoming a curmudgeon I think, because I sometimes use the term clip incorrectly because it gives me the same feeling I get when I drive to the end of my block before I buckle my seat belt.
May there be many safe and happy emptied magazines in your future.
And current engagements in Iraq are usually well under 50m.
The M4/M16 is doing fine.
There are more qualified people to ask, but if you would like assistance in adding something to yours, I'd be happy to help, just FReepmail(private message) me.
I love the AR-15, but a Kalifornia legal one would be like having sex wearing a space suit.
Are you a fellow Michigan boy?
I worked for Spence in two consecutive elections (him winning the last) and fought Debbie tooth and nail throughout the 1990s.
Michigan’s gonna come to its senses one day.
Presently I'm perusing Homers Illiad and a few old DC war comics to gather some material for mine, and of course making sure there are any outstanding warrants.
“Copy that 08. An en-bloc is a clip, a stripper is a clip, a tube is a magazine and a box magazine is a magazine.”
Some people can get carried away. ;)
Pistol grips are highly over-rated. And sex wearing a space suit is probably highly under-rated. But I have no first hand knowledge about the latter.
The Grendel is certainly better than any sort of 223. Nonetheless when they say “super ballistics to the 7.62” they almost certainly mean superior to the 7.62 with the standard 149 gr bullets. Loading the 308 with 165 gr bullets fixes that and the 308 is still significantly bigger.
The only difference between mine and anyone elses in the Free World is the lack of a pistol grip and the ten round mag limit.
You may be thinking of these top loader abortions that are on the market. Gah!
Yep they do. Sorry if it was me.
By the way, did you know that the area of a ship where powder is.......well never mind. Take care and ditto's on Duncan Hunter.
I should’ve put a smiley after the “have words” line.... ;)
“By the way, did you know that the area of a ship where powder is.......well never mind.”
You mean the ship’s powder clip. Heh heh. ;)
You still have a weight penalty for the 7.62 compared to the 6.5 and 5.56 rounds. Lower weight per cartridge means more rounds carried in a combat load-out. The $64 question is “Is the 6.5 Grendel better than either 7.62 NATO or 5.56 in Iraq?” I suspect the answer is yes.
Perfectly put. An AK or an SKS will do the same job, better and cheaper, and most certainly more reliably, in most instances.
I do wonder why this found its way into print in the NYT. They never give up (hell they still think Ethel and Julius Rosenberg were innocent), so why even a semi-positive slant on this? Just to keep it in the public eye, so they can come back latter and call for a ban? Hmmmm.
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