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A Hot-Selling Weapon, an Inviting Target (fairly neutral article on AR-15 type rifles from the NYT)
New York Times ^ | 3 June 2007 | Andrew Park

Posted on 06/03/2007 1:07:14 PM PDT by RKV

LAST February, Jim Zumbo, a burly, 66-year-old outdoors writer, got a phone call at his home near Cody, Wyo., from the rock star — and outspoken Second Amendment champion — Ted Nugent. “You messed up, man,” Mr. Zumbo says Mr. Nugent told him. “Big time.”

Leland A. Nichols, left, an executive at Smith & Wesson in Springfield, Mass., and John Kapusta, an engineering manager, with an M&P 15 rifle. Such rifles have been crucial to the company’s turnaround plans.

Two days earlier, Mr. Zumbo, a leading hunting journalist, outraged Mr. Nugent and many other gun owners when he suggested in a blog post that increasingly popular semiautomatic guns known as “black rifles” be banned from hunting. Mr. Zumbo, stunned that hunters were using the rifles for sport, also suggested giving the guns, prized for their matte black metal finishes, molded plastic parts and combat-ready looks, a new name: “terrorist rifles.”

Gun enthusiasts’ backlash against Mr. Zumbo was swift. He parted company with his employer, Outdoor Life magazine. Mr. Zumbo says on his Web site that he was “terminated”; the magazine says that it and Mr. Zumbo agreed that he would resign.

But a week after hearing from Mr. Nugent, who has a devoted following among gun owners, Mr. Zumbo visited him in Waco, Tex., to make amends. For his part, Mr. Nugent was prepared to give Mr. Zumbo a lesson on the utility and ubiquity of black rifles.

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“It’s highly unlikely that any legislation to move an assault weapons ban is going to happen,” says Kristen Rand, legislative director at the Violence Policy Center, a gun-control lobbying group. “That’s the sad reality on the Hill right now.”

ONLY IF WE KEEP THE POLITICIANS FEET TO THE FIRE BOYS

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ar15; armedcitizen; banglist; blackrifle; ganglist; guns; rkba
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I know the NYT doesn't qualify as a news source, but thought you might enjoy this article. The link is on the free side of their site, too, so no registration is required.
1 posted on 06/03/2007 1:07:20 PM PDT by RKV
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To: RKV

Nice quote from Ted Nugent also...

“Black rifles are cool. Case closed. The more the better.”


2 posted on 06/03/2007 1:09:18 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: bang_list

FYI and thanks to www.ArmsandtheLaw.com


3 posted on 06/03/2007 1:10:10 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV
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4 posted on 06/03/2007 1:15:35 PM PDT by magslinger (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
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Mr. Zumbo, chastened by the outcry that his black-rifle comments set off, says he hopes to resume writing about hunting and to revive his popular cable television show, which was put on hiatus when it lost sponsors after the blog post. He says his time at Mr. Nugent’s ranch reminded him that gun owners have to reject banning any firearm, lest it open the door to banning them all. He also says that, like it or not, black rifles are now mainstream.

“Having met the people who shoot these things, they were regular folks; they weren’t sinister people who were bent on causing harm, they weren’t hostile people,” he says. “They were interested in the guns because they were fun to shoot.”


5 posted on 06/03/2007 1:18:20 PM PDT by LetGoNow
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To: LetGoNow

I want to give Zumbo the benefit of the doubt on his rehabilitation, but the stuff he said was so hateful and ill informed I still have my doubts. Of course, the NYT thinks anyone who shoots any gun of any type is “sinister.”


6 posted on 06/03/2007 1:21:12 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: RKV
“terrorist rifles.”

How about "SWAT Team rifles"?

7 posted on 06/03/2007 1:22:18 PM PDT by glorgau
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Yeah, all we have is the Slimes version... who knows what the rest of the story is?


8 posted on 06/03/2007 1:22:24 PM PDT by LetGoNow
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To: RKV

The M16 made a certain amount of sense in a jungle war in which you saw the enemy from 50’ away. In wars in mountain and desert terrain, it is problematical, and that’s aside from the question of having exhaust gas blowing straight back into bolt carrier parts. People who collect guns should have one of them; for an only gun, I’d not consider it.


9 posted on 06/03/2007 1:22:29 PM PDT by rickdylan
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To: RKV

Twice the stopping power. One-fifth the price.


10 posted on 06/03/2007 1:24:58 PM PDT by pabianice
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Lots of people lately talk about showing loyalty to the Republicans or defending Bush because of the amnesty deal. Personally I don't feel that way about elected officials. I want my elected officials to be afraid of me. I want them to be afraid that if they make one false step, then they're going to have to answer to a bunch of people who are armed and can back up their intentions. I want them to be afraid for their lives, and then I want them to legislate that way... as if one wrong step will be their end.

The Republicans in government aren't my friends. They are the least offensive vermin available. And the second amendment is the original "check and balance".

11 posted on 06/03/2007 1:25:00 PM PDT by tcostell (MOLON LABE)
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The Republicans in government aren't my friends. They are the least offensive vermin available. And the second amendment is the original "check and balance".

Whoa there pal, you're starting to sound like one of the founding fathers.

12 posted on 06/03/2007 1:27:14 PM PDT by umgud ("When seconds count, the police are just 10 minutes away!")
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To: RKV

I just built a beauty of an AR, so count me in the EBR fan club. I started with a California off-list CMMG stripped lower, a Bushmaster lower parts kit and A2 stock and a modified grip to make it California legal.

I topped it off with a JP Enterprises JP-15 18” upper, Leupold 1 - 4 x 20mm scope and a JPoint red dot mounted at a 45° on the handguard.

It is a tack driver...and as evil looking as you could want. So thanks Zumbo.


13 posted on 06/03/2007 1:28:16 PM PDT by telebob
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6.5 Grendel, uses the same lower as the AR. "First unveiled in May 2003 at the Blackwater Training facility in NC, the 6.5 Grendel® out-shot the 7.62 NATO at range with half the recoil. Still supersonic at 1200 yards, the 6.5 Grendel® delivered superior external ballistics to the 7.62 NATO." http://www.alexanderarms.com/grendel.htm
14 posted on 06/03/2007 1:32:17 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: tcostell

I agree wholeheartedly.


15 posted on 06/03/2007 1:35:12 PM PDT by RKV (He who has the guns makes the rules)
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To: tcostell
Lots of people lately talk about showing loyalty to the Republicans or defending Bush because of the amnesty deal. Personally I don't feel that way about elected officials. I want my elected officials to be afraid of me. I want them to be afraid that if they make one false step, then they're going to have to answer to a bunch of people who are armed and can back up their intentions. I want them to be afraid for their lives, and then I want them to legislate that way... as if one wrong step will be their end.

The Republicans in government aren't my friends. They are the least offensive vermin available. And the second amendment is the original "check and balance".

I nominate this for post of the month.

17 posted on 06/03/2007 1:41:46 PM PDT by cryptical (The Dining Cryptographers always wait until Bruce Schneier has been served.)
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To: pabianice

A friend of mine has one of these because both the gun and the ammo are not expensive. I have shot it, cool for plinkin’, but I forgot the name of it.


18 posted on 06/03/2007 1:46:08 PM PDT by Stayfree (*************************Get your copy of The Fred Factor by David Gill at Capitol Hill Comedy.com)
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To: RKV

“We were never claiming that every buyer of an assault weapon is a criminal or is a potential mass killer,” says Dennis Hennigan of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence in Washington.

But in 1994, Shmucky Chuck Schumer was: ““These killing machines are the weapon of choice of drug traffickers, violent youth gangs and the seriously deranged bent on revenge through mass murder.”


19 posted on 06/03/2007 1:48:49 PM PDT by flowerplough
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“Having met the people who shoot these things, they were regular folks; they weren’t sinister people who were bent on causing harm, they weren’t hostile people,” he says. “They were interested in the guns because they were fun to shoot.”

So he wrote his idiot article before researching the subject,Hum, typical journalist I see!


20 posted on 06/03/2007 1:50:31 PM PDT by ontap
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