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A Hot-Selling Weapon, an Inviting Target (fairly neutral article on AR-15 type rifles from the NYT)
New York Times ^ | 3 June 2007 | Andrew Park

Posted on 06/03/2007 1:07:14 PM PDT by RKV

LAST February, Jim Zumbo, a burly, 66-year-old outdoors writer, got a phone call at his home near Cody, Wyo., from the rock star — and outspoken Second Amendment champion — Ted Nugent. “You messed up, man,” Mr. Zumbo says Mr. Nugent told him. “Big time.”

Leland A. Nichols, left, an executive at Smith & Wesson in Springfield, Mass., and John Kapusta, an engineering manager, with an M&P 15 rifle. Such rifles have been crucial to the company’s turnaround plans.

Two days earlier, Mr. Zumbo, a leading hunting journalist, outraged Mr. Nugent and many other gun owners when he suggested in a blog post that increasingly popular semiautomatic guns known as “black rifles” be banned from hunting. Mr. Zumbo, stunned that hunters were using the rifles for sport, also suggested giving the guns, prized for their matte black metal finishes, molded plastic parts and combat-ready looks, a new name: “terrorist rifles.”

Gun enthusiasts’ backlash against Mr. Zumbo was swift. He parted company with his employer, Outdoor Life magazine. Mr. Zumbo says on his Web site that he was “terminated”; the magazine says that it and Mr. Zumbo agreed that he would resign.

But a week after hearing from Mr. Nugent, who has a devoted following among gun owners, Mr. Zumbo visited him in Waco, Tex., to make amends. For his part, Mr. Nugent was prepared to give Mr. Zumbo a lesson on the utility and ubiquity of black rifles.

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“It’s highly unlikely that any legislation to move an assault weapons ban is going to happen,” says Kristen Rand, legislative director at the Violence Policy Center, a gun-control lobbying group. “That’s the sad reality on the Hill right now.”

ONLY IF WE KEEP THE POLITICIANS FEET TO THE FIRE BOYS

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: ar15; armedcitizen; banglist; blackrifle; ganglist; guns; rkba
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To: magslinger

I had my doubts - the AK didn’t look quite right in there, but dismissed it as enhanced as opposed to faked. Actually, you did quite a good job with it! (I’m usually quite good at nailing fakes - ya got me.) Would like to see what black rifle Zumbo did use, and what he got with it.


121 posted on 06/04/2007 4:49:05 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: RKV

I’m very struck by how they were actually level-headed about the subject, using the term “black rifle” instead of their usually preferred demonization “semi-automatic assault weapon”. Even the “equal time” given to the grabbers made the grabbers look slightly off-keel. Far more news than propaganda.


122 posted on 06/04/2007 4:51:33 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: LetGoNow

He isn’t. He just wants his all expenses paid hunting safaris back and to pull down his fat paycheck. Go to any range in the nation - anywhere - and you’ll find just average Americans plinking, target shooting, or testing new loads with “terrorist” rifles. Zumbro knows full well that they are mainstream, but he’s an elite fool that lives in a world where he thinks this stuff should be banned but his Purdys and Parkers will be spared. His attitude is ‘Let them eat cake.’

Let him eat crow - and choke on it.


123 posted on 06/04/2007 5:22:22 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Current tagline banned under hate speech laws.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

Yeah, that makes sense.


124 posted on 06/04/2007 5:40:16 PM PDT by LetGoNow (Listen up punk. The colors are red, white, and blue, not red, white, and green. Got that? Now scram!)
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To: magslinger

I came back to Michigan (and MSU) after leaving active duty in 1992. I took a job in Indiana in 1994 and have been here ever since.

It’s a flat state and I’ve only been on an Indiana “lake” once in 13 years. Other than that, it’s a great place to live.

Michigan is like an alcoholic.
Only when it hits its lowest point will it come to its senses.
Sadly, that point is still a way off.


125 posted on 06/05/2007 5:36:04 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
Michigan is like an alcoholic.
Only when it hits its lowest point will it come to its senses.
Sadly, that point is still a way off.

I'd LOL but that summary is too true.

OTOH bottom is where you make it. A recent poll says that if the election were held today instead of last November, DeVos would win. I don't think Malibu Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket had better count on another term.

126 posted on 06/05/2007 8:13:44 AM PDT by magslinger (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
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To: ctdonath2
Here's a link to the original photo.

I have an idea for the other, but I'll have to do some more searching to find the right material to work with.

127 posted on 06/05/2007 8:17:50 AM PDT by magslinger (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
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To: ctdonath2
Would like to see what black rifle Zumbo did use, and what he got with it.

Here ya go. Not sure what kind of varmint he got, but sure is an ugly sucka.

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128 posted on 06/05/2007 6:05:42 PM PDT by magslinger (Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors. And miss. R.A.Heinlein)
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To: magslinger

You funny.

If it wasn’t for the lead photo actually showing Zumbo holding a pink tiger-striped AR by the magazine, and know it’s real, I’d have been more suspicious of your rather good fakes. Nicely done!

(BTW: wander over to fark.com and peruse their “Photoshop” contests. Lots to learn, lots to laugh.)


129 posted on 06/05/2007 6:50:23 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (The color blue tastes like the square root of 0?)
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To: Hardastarboard
I would think you would want a shotgun for that kind of work. Or so a Viet vet buddy of mine tells me. He also told me, though, that if the NVA or VC caught you with one, they executed you on the spot.

I guess that means they really really really didn't like M-79's loaded with canister rounds.

130 posted on 06/08/2007 11:48:21 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
I never served, so I don't know what ordnance is (was) available for the M-79. I would have assumed they fired only grenades or maybe WP rounds. An M-79 with canister would be nasty.

He never mentioned it, though, and I haven't seen him in years, or I would ask him.

131 posted on 06/09/2007 4:05:54 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (DemocraticUnderground.com is an internet hate site.)
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