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To: Dan Evans
Wasn’t it Lincoln who said a bloody revolution was the right and in fact the duty of those who saw no other way to restore the rights to the people.

We have been given a way to control those who govern us in a peaceful manner. If that doesn’t work then we are left with the choice between seeing our way of life disappear or do what it takes to preserve it.

One poster talks about tax cuts and stem cell research. It goes far beyond that. It goes to having our country overrun by illegal immigrants who have no interest in seeing “The American Way” continue other than to assure they get their piece of the pie. We have government at various levels that seems blind to the dangers posed by Islamofascists an Sharia law. Read through the Declaration of Independence. It lists the reasons why we felt it necessary to overthrow the existing government. We’re right back to a lot of those reasons.

Sadly we’ve reached a point where term limits may well be our last hope. With over half the population working for the government or getting government benefits we are not very likely to dis-elect those who do the hiring and pass out the pork.

Don’t get me wrong. I am not calling for a overthrow of the government by force. But we certainly can’t rule it out if things continue the way they are.

17 posted on 06/02/2007 8:04:52 AM PDT by jwpjr (Sigh)
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To: jwpjr; JHBowden
That's the thing though - once you make that decision to use force to accomplish your political objectives, there's no going back. If *you* do it, so will the socialists and communists and hippies. Say goodbye to civil society - we'll have something like Somalia instead.

Also, I don't think the military is either independent or competent enough to do what Sowell thinks it can do. It entirely relies on the civilian government. Is is also politically and otherwise fragmented. There is no strong leader that would put together such an audacious coup.
23 posted on 06/02/2007 8:20:56 AM PDT by billybudd
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To: jwpjr

“Sadly we’ve reached a point where term limits may well be our last hope.....”

Unfortunately, we’ve tried to pass term limits. Newt Gingrich led the fight with the Contract with America in 1994. Bob Dole, teh Senate Majority leader at the time, made sure they tanked in the Senate...for which he was granted the Republican nomination in 1996. Newt...well Newt as you may recall...wound up resigning form congress.

The only recourse, I’m afraid, is...

http://www.articlev.com/repeal17.htm


41 posted on 06/02/2007 9:04:04 AM PDT by mo
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To: jwpjr

“I am not calling for a overthrow of the government by force.”

There is really no need to resort to force. If a sizable portion of the population simply refuses to show up to work, the country shuts down. Actually, the truckers alone could do it. This is amply illustrated by the fact that a large metropolis can be brought to its knees by a garbage strike.
The people of Luebeck, E. Germany brought down the Berlin Wall by sitting in the street and refusing to move. If the military comes in and kills everyone, the government still falls because the all hope of “normalcy” is lost then.
Yes, the people have the power to overthrow the government by simply not showing up for their job. That is devastatingly effective.


43 posted on 06/02/2007 9:12:11 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: jwpjr

It also doesn’t help that half the people don’t pay taxes, and then proceed to vote on how high the taxes should be for the other half. It is useful to remember that the IRS is permitted to carry guns, as if the inherent threat of force wasn’t enough. We have gone from a Republic to a more Democratic Republic. Eventually, we’ll go from a Democracy to a totalitarian govt. It is probable given the history of the world. A lot of it started with Wilson, and more, much more, with FDR.


67 posted on 06/04/2007 4:16:44 PM PDT by PghBaldy (Stop the ethnic cleansing of American citizens in the SW. Save America, Congress!)
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