Posted on 06/01/2007 4:34:31 AM PDT by Marathoner
When it comes to dealing with the illegal immigration issue, President Bush and his administration are their own worst enemies. On other issues, the president is sugar and spice when it comes to Democrat opponents. But when it comes to rule-of-law conservative opposition to his “amnesty” proposal, the preferred method of operation is akin to thwacking the hornet’s nest with a stick.
You may recall that when the Minutemen first brought this issue to major public attention a few years ago with their volunteer border patrols, President Bush called them “vigilantes.” And it’s been pretty much all downhill from there, leading to his big May 29 speech on the current immigration reform proposal at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center (FLETC) in Georgia.
The president began his remarks by introducing two Hispanic members of his administration, Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez and former Cabinet member Mel Martinez, now a U.S. Senator from Florida. Both were born in Cuba. “I want to mention those two men because, to me, they represent what the immigration debate is all about,” the president said.
So right out of the chute the president misrepresents the issue. I don’t believe Gutierrez and Martinez are illegal immigrants. They and/or their families immigrated here legally. And it appears both came here to escape the oppression of the Castro regime, not to simply get a higher-paying job. So Gutierrez and Martinez are NOT what this immigration debate is about. The issue is over those who break the law to get here.
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If that relative were reading this, he’d be ashamed of you.
“Also how many of your relatives are buried in France got one there also.”
My relatives mostly fought in the Pacific in that war.
Your point?
The rest of your rant is just impenetrable gibberish.
“You want my name to harass me don’t go there ,Better and more intelligent people then you tried.”
Lady, I really don’t give a damn about “your name”. You’re just another liberal racist.
Since when do they write our laws?
“Gee I wonder if Washington thought that about the French fleet when they stoped General Cornwallis from leaving Yorktown before he surrendered to Washington.”
Mostly that they were late and there for their own reasons.
“But then again only King George and his rule would do for you.”
Seems to me that you are the Tory here.
Who says they will vote democrat. you have a crystal ball. if there is an end of the Republican party is is by your won words that it will come. The people not wanted people with different ideas like you and your friends are the ones who are ruining the rep party. the demos are just as bad as you we need a new party. One eastern european conservative party. Sounnd good to me.
No you are!
OH no , my family would stand right next to me and and say you go girl! They would read your posts and get sick. Fact is they all love me and my patriotism, But you and your they would say you have a right to say it ,but nobody going to listen.
Now my dad and husband they might have punched you right in the nose!I stand and watch and hand you the hankerchief.Poor soul!
Statistics, for one. Ask B1 Bob. They come from Marxist hellholes with a chip on their shoulder, have very high recidivism rates, use massive amounts of “social services”, and march in our streets with their flags. Their major “rights” organizations (speaking of Mexican illegals, here) call themselves “The Race”, wear SA-esque uniforms, and have on the seal of their “student” branch, a bloody axe.
” The people not wanted people with different ideas like you and your friends are the ones who are ruining the rep party.”
We desire the Constitution be followed and laws enforced equally. You want racist laws that elevate one group over another.
“One eastern european conservative party. Sounnd good to me.”
You know, you keep going on about Eastern Europe as if you identify more with that part of Europe than this country.
I’m of Irish descent, but I don’t identify myself as Irish. I’m of Czech and German descent (probably a bit of Polish, considering the former family manor is in modern-day Poland) too, but I don’t identify myself that way. I’m part American Indian, but I don’t identity myself that way, either. I call myself “American”.
You continue to call yourself “Eastern European”, but claim to have been born here and a citizen. Which is it?
You rant at me on these boards claiming I’m a “racist” against “Eastern Europeans” (my ancestors). Amusing.
“No you are!”
Your ability to debate an issue is astounding.
“OH no , my family would stand right next to me and and say you go girl!”
I’m sorry for them, then.
“They would read your posts and get sick. “
About what, specifically?
“But you and your they would say you have a right to say it ,but nobody going to listen.”
The majority of the country wants our laws enforced equally.
That concept is “racist” to you. Do you have a clue what that word actually means?
“Now my dad and husband they might have punched you right in the nose!I stand and watch and hand you the hankerchief.Poor soul!”
I’m afraid I’d just have laughed.
“Hey I can’t help it if your an sectors are rolling in the grave not mine. “
Considering they fought for this country in the Revolution, I doubt they would. You see, they founded this nation for them and their posterity and that posterity was to have a say in who could join them.
A nation without borders isn’t one.
We just don’t listen? Tell that to the recently-fired RNC solicitors. The GOP just doesn’t listen. 70% of the nation - including 70% of Americans of Hispanic descent - demand the borders be enforced and they get the finger for their trouble.
“Fortunely the White House is smarter then you and knows no man is an island and stands alone. “
This really makes no sense, not that the rest of your posts have been all that coherent.
“Go out get dressed, burn a cross on somebody’s lawn .”
More “Conservatives are Nazis” rhetoric. Despicable.
“Does anyone know Tony’s position on illegals before he joined the White House?”
Snow is a mouth piece for the WH. He does not make policy, contrary to what some people here think.
“Do you want to turn them in?, They did that in Nazi Germany with the Jews I think.”
Oh please.
Even the current proposed bill, which requires many of them to return home for one year before coming back, would fall short of your standards. "How can we expect them all to do it?"
The answer is that the current crop of illegals were not herded up and moved here at gunpoint. They smuggled themselves in, often at great cost and risk.
So merely trudling over to an ICE office for voluntary, safe deportation (with air conditioned offices, and meals en route, no doubt) is a snap compared to coming here.
Nice try, though.
I grew up in the area too.
No such developments. The proof is that there have been no massive class action suits on behalf of the cancer victims, the way you have mesothelioma suits against the asbestos folks.
I therefore conclude, that despite your sign-up date, you are a troll or a paid disruptor on this subject.
In other words, Alberto Gonzalez? Mel Martinez? Secretary Gutierrez? Is that you? ;-)
Tell your boss we're NOT buying it.
But this is Hugh! And series!
I'm stuned!
Cheers!
If you can get me a check from somebody to put up with the insults I have put with in here,PLEASE DO SO!All your side is condemn and the other side wants no laws. now quarter just let them in. Nobody has any answers, If there is money out there to be insulted by people who probably did not want my parents , grandparents here please tell me where. It is my own opinion.This conversation goes no where,no wonder the reps party lost .
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