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Giuliani"s Unwelcome Birthday Guests
The New York Observer ^ | 5/29/07 | Azi Paybarah

Posted on 05/29/2007 3:13:05 PM PDT by SUSSA

Here’s an unwelcome birthday gift for Rudy Giuliani, as he travels around the city raising money: protests from fire fighters and family members of September 11th victims.

They've shown up in the past at Giuliani's presidential events. Today, they’re gathering in Bay Ridge, and they have plans to follow him nationwide starting sometime around January, according to Jim Riches, a deputy chief with the fire department whose son was killed in the World Trade Center attacks.

“We have all the UFA, the UFOA, and the fire members are all behind us -- the International Association of Fire Fighters,” said Riches. “And we’re going to be out there today to let everybody know that he’s not the hero that he says he is.”

The group’s complaints center on the faulty radios used by the fire department that day and what they say was a lack of coordination at Ground Zero.

And Riches disputes the notion that Giuliani provided any form of leadership on September 11 or in the days following.

“If somebody can tell me what he did on 9/11 that was so good, I’d love to hear it. All he did was give information on the TV”

“He did nothing,” Riches continued. “He stood there with a TV reporter and told everyone what was going on. And he got it from everybody else down at the site.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; firefighters; giuliani; giulianitruthfile; rudy; ufa
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To: calcowgirl

Gosh, you do such good work! Great stuff!


101 posted on 05/30/2007 11:13:52 AM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: TommyDale
The other thing about all of that after-the-fact analysis that is important is that it is pretty non-political. It was written almost 5 years ago and is not some kind of Giuliani hit-piece. It was trying to take a serious look at what went wrong, what could have been done better, etc.

Since then, despite the noted failures and mismanagement, Rudy wrote a book, launched a consulting firm to take advantage of his newfound image as a "hero", and now prances around the stage trying to define himself as the one who will protect you from Islamofascists. While others clearly talk about improvements and failures, Giuliani and Kerik rarely acknowledge that they were anything but perfect.

I prefer a leader who knows when to exercise humility, not arrogance.

102 posted on 05/30/2007 12:01:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: calcowgirl

Still some outstanding work and great ovservations. You will be needed here during this next 16 months or so!


103 posted on 05/30/2007 12:03:05 PM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: TommyDale

(aw shucks!) Thanks. :-)


104 posted on 05/30/2007 12:10:24 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: SUSSA

“He stood there with a TV reporter and told everyone what was going on. And he got it from everybody else down at the site.”

WTF was he suppose to do?


105 posted on 05/30/2007 12:12:37 PM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: angcat

He was supposed to be in the “command center” coordinating the efforts of the firefighters, police, and other responders.

But since he disregarded expert advice to get the proper equipment the responders needed and the advice to locate the “command center” somewhere other than the WTC, he couldn’t be in there.

So just how does racing from TV crew to TV crew make him a hero?

The sooner the real heroes of 9-11 Swift Boat this liberal puke the better.


106 posted on 05/30/2007 12:36:39 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: SUSSA

This is nothing but nit picking. I am not a Rudy supporter but he did just fine on 9/11.


107 posted on 05/30/2007 12:39:39 PM PDT by angcat ("IF YOU DON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM")
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To: SUSSA

SWIFT BOATS AWAY!!!!

Hasta la Vista Giuliani - write us from Tiahuana!!


108 posted on 05/30/2007 12:41:10 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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To: angcat

That is nit picking?!?!?


109 posted on 05/30/2007 12:42:37 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: angcat

And Kerry did just fine in Vietnam. Giuliani is no more a hero than Kerry is and deserves to be Swift Boated the sooner the better.


110 posted on 05/30/2007 12:44:05 PM PDT by SUSSA
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To: TommyDale; calcowgirl
Still some outstanding work and great ovservations. You will be needed here during this next 16 months or so!

Interesing, I know I've asked before, but you really do think Rudy's nomination is a done thing, don't you.

111 posted on 05/30/2007 12:51:11 PM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: SJackson; calcowgirl; Liz; indylindy
"Interesing, I know I've asked before, but you really do think Rudy's nomination is a done thing, don't you."

No freaking way!

112 posted on 05/30/2007 12:54:10 PM PDT by TommyDale (More Americans are killed each day in the U.S. by abortion than were killed on 9/11 !)
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To: BurtSB

You’re right. They’re scum. Unfortunately, the media will give them big play, and the average boob watching at home on TV will believe them.


113 posted on 05/30/2007 12:56:24 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charley the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: SJackson
Interesing, I know I've asked before, but you really do think Rudy's nomination is a done thing, don't you.

Gosh, I'd whole lot rather have Hildabeast/Hussein Obama in the White House than Rudy, wouldn't you?

114 posted on 05/30/2007 1:02:06 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

Is there a difference?


115 posted on 05/30/2007 1:06:18 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: TommyDale

Then it’s over in 9, not 16.


116 posted on 05/30/2007 1:06:22 PM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: P-40

Yes...


117 posted on 05/30/2007 1:07:46 PM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Fred Thompson for President)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr
Gosh, I'd whole lot rather have Hildabeast/Hussein Obama in the White House than Rudy, wouldn't you?

I wouldn't, but there's a lot of support for the "moral choice", staying home. Not to mention third parties like the Constitution Party, they along with the Libertarian's have endorsed Ron Paul, so there's an option for a quicker withdrawl from Iraq than anything Hillary is about to do.

118 posted on 05/30/2007 1:08:47 PM PDT by SJackson (Be careful -- with quotations, you can damn anything, Andre Malraux)
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To: AxelPaulsenJr

I guess Rudy is the oldest of the three.


119 posted on 05/30/2007 1:10:21 PM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: SJackson; TommyDale
...you really do think Rudy's nomination is a done thing, don't you.

We have about 7+ months to make sure that doesn't happen. Are you on board?

120 posted on 05/30/2007 1:10:28 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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