Posted on 05/29/2007 10:15:03 AM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
GLYNCO, Ga. (AP) - President Bush attacked opponents of an immigration deal Tuesday, suggesting they “don’t want to do what’s right for America.”
“The fundamental question is, will elected officials have the courage necessary to put a comprehensive immigration plan in place,” Bush said against a backdrop of a huge American flag.
He described his proposal—which has been agreed to by a bipartisan group of senators—as one that “makes it more likely we can enforce our border—and at the same time uphold the great immigrant tradition of the United States of America.”
Bush spoke at the nation’s largest training center for law enforcement.
He chose the get-tough setting as conservative critics blast a Senate proposal as being soft on people who break the law. Hoping to blunt that message, Bush emphasized that any new options for immigrants and foreign workers would not start until tougher security is in place.
The presidential stop came during a congressional recess, with senators back home and facing pressure from the left and right on the immigration plan. Bush’s aim is to build momentum for the legislation, perhaps his best chance for a signature victory in his second term. The Senate expects to resume debate on it next week.
“A lot of Americans are skeptical about immigration reform, primarily because they don’t think the government can fix the problems,” Bush said.
“And my answer to the skeptics is: give us a chance to fix the problems in a comprehensive way that enforces our border and treats people with decency and respect. Give us a chance to fix this problem. Don’t try to kill this bill before it gets moving,” Bush told students and instructors at the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.
Bush repeatedly cast the matter as one of political courage.
“Those determined to find fault with this bill will always be able to look at a narrow slice of it and find something they don’t like,” the president said. “If you want to kill the bill, if you don’t want to do what’s right for America, you can pick one little aspect out of it.
“You can use it to frighten people,” Bush said. “Or you can show leadership and solve this problem once and for all.”
The bill would give temporary legal status to millions of unlawful immigrants, provided they came forward, paid a fine and underwent criminal background checks. To apply for a green card, they would have to pay another fine, learn English, return to their home country and wait in line.
The plan also would create a guest worker program. It would allow foreign laborers to come to the U.S. for temporary stints, yet with no guarantee they can eventually gain citizenship.
Both the new visa plan and the temporary worker program are contingent on other steps coming first. Those include fencing and barriers along the Mexico border, the hiring of more Border Patrol agents and the completion of an identification system to verify employees’ legal status.
The legislation would also reshape future immigration decisions. A new point system would prioritize skills and education over family in deciding who can immigrate.
Georgia’s senators both played leading roles in producing Bush’s deal with the Senate. Yet they have also said they may not support the final bill, depending upon how it is amended.
Bush chastised those who say the proposal offers amnesty to illegal immigrants. He called it empty political rhetoric.
screw Tony Snow and “Mr. Bush”
Selling the US out... plain and simple..
You know what I thought I would never say this but I HATE El Presidente Bush.
Touche' !
President Bush won't leave office until January, 2009.
He will probably sign a Social Security Totalization Bill for Mexicans in the last days of his presidency.
It is the conservatives that are being dumped from the Party. Why? Because we won’t stand for policies like this amnesty. The country club Republicans want the Party back so they can have their unified North American economy. Conservatives were good for the Party but now are in the way.
Chances that we’ll start a viable 3rd party-—remote. Chances that the Republicans will eventually come back from minority status as a me-too party-—actually pretty good.
It’s the only explanation for these outrages.
Now the folks that brought us the unremarkable pampered son of the moneyed elites want to bring us another big government liberal in Rudy. Truly the GOP is imploding.
ROFL. I never did get a response to that question.
I just clicked on the homepage of the subject poster...
the words Mondale and Dukakis jumped out at me. ;-)
““Put some ice on that.” Then we will feel better.”
I don’t get it. Simplify please.
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It’s a measure of the depth of my contempt for Bush and his amnesty proposals.
The “Put some ice on that.” refers to what Bill Clinton told Jaunita Brodderik after raping her in an Arkansas hotel room. Brodderik got a fat lip in the struggle and Clinton, like the cad he is, told her she better put some ice on that as he was leaving the room.
Yeah, I too noticed that even most of the hard-core Arbustobots aren't around much lately. Even Dane, who used to show up on just about every immigration thread, is a no-show nowadays.
Maybe it's because it's dawning on them just what a sorry state the Republican party has put itself in right now.
It is now absurd for anyone to defend the idea that GWB is a conservative. No conservative would desire to obliterate the US nation-state.
I was disturbed by this letter from investment guru Harry Schultz to his readers:
Dear Lambs:
Read our virtual obituary (yours & mine), spoken in 1991 by David Rockefeller, & oh so obvious in 2007:
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, NY Times, Time magazine & other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings & respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated & prepared to march towards a world govt. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite & world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." -- David Rockefeller, Baden-Baden, Germany 1991.
Frankly, dear, dear readers of mine, I fear we've lost the game. The insiders have won. They now control all the levers of power, financial & political. Many good men in public office are prohibited by the system from reforming it. Commercial, media & political power is concentrated in just a few elite hands. I've (& others) warned (loudly) for decades in HSL what was happening & what would occur if nothing was done. People were lulled into lethargy via careful massive brain conditioning, became content to watch TV 7 hours a day, accepted the misdeeds of politicians, the raging moral degradation of society, the creation of media/corp monopolies, the ruin of money worldwide--begun (via careful plan) by Washington/NY insiders.
People blamed inflation for their 50% loss of buying power in last 35 years, not realizing the definition of inflation is an increase in the quantity of money/credit by banks/govt, equally. They cleverly removed gold as currency backing to give them monetary control. There is now no legal restraint on govt. Govt distorts economic data & everyone knows it, but the kept-press is kept silent & thus nobody marches in the street about their life being sacrificed on the altar of globalization--offshoring jobs--the lie called "free trade," which in fact means the opposite, like all govt legislation titles. Eg, Patriot Act is unpatriotic if U still believe the US Constitution has merit & is a lighthouse for other nations. The minority who understand all the above are mostly afraid to make waves-which is also part of the grand scheme, to intimidate or buy-off critics.
When a possible leader or competent critic emerges in the US, he/she is immediately made a member of the CFR, which thereby seals his/her lips. Or else! It's a refinement of a Mafia policy. It's done in a few other countries too, but not as widely or ruthlessly as in the US.
In any case, my point is, we've lost. Individual freedom & civil rights are substantially gone or compromised beyond practical application. In the past I've always said: divide your time/funds, ie, devote say 50% of your effort/ funds to fighting to save &/or restore lost individual rights/liberty/privacy, & 50% to self-preservation (as U may lose with your freedom fighting). In recent times I implied those %'s need modifying, as we're losing ground & one must save one's family/self. Today, with the devilish North American Union being cemented into the US & Canada's future, the sabotage of freedom, both individual & collective, is being completed. So, I regrettably now recom U ratchet down your %'s, maybe to 10% vs 90%. Govts are not looking after your individual freedom (esp in Anglo Saxon nations-UK/Cda/Oz/NZ/US); so if U don't row a boat with your family flag on it (not a nation flag), U may help sink your family & yourself.
Will individual/personal freedom & former civil rights come back some day? Maybe. Perhaps the extremity will lead to its destruction. But, if so, we have to get through a worse period before we get there, if we do. And to get through it requires a lot of effort, especially if U live in the US in its present mode; many are leaving the US til it is "safe" to return. Washington has become an imperial govt with the public regarded as peasants, & the laws have been changed to match. Everything is a crime if civil servants wish to use existing laws. Changing presidents doesn't change new laws. Washington is Rome. Caesars come & go, each inheriting & demanding greater powers than his predecessor. (US Pres. Executive Powers now total 12K, upsetting the system's balance of power)
PS: One of my inner circle advised me against running this article, showing so little hope. But my duty is to my subs. If U want sugar coating, see big media. 1. Truth is honourable. 2. Total truth is often helpful, used wisely. 3. U & HSL gain from honesty; it binds us together, & offers a potential path for survival. 4. There are no strategies useable/ available to win against Big Brother govt at this late stage of lightning-fast deterioration of democracy/liberty/ privacy, when the casino is rigged against U. In the past 4 mos that erosion velocity has increased by 80%. 5. While there is no current hope for reform/change or replacing the controlling elite, what little hope there is to simply "survive"-physical, financial, mental-will probably depend on what may be called: deeper-PT. We'll try to simply define it, but not as openly as before, as it now becomes provocative, & risks being declared "illegal" or unpatriotic. U'd better learn to read betwn the lines. Owning physical gold is a minimum essential. I suggest U reread the last 12 HSL's. It's all there. Sauvé qui peut (save who can, or every man for himself, or run for your life).
Harry Schultz
Reprinted here: http://www.bullnotbull.com/archive/harry-2-2007.html
Do your own poll of your friends and neighbors. Make sure that you talk with both libs and conservatives. You may be surprised at how extreme some of the opinions are on both sides of political spectrum (and even among apolitical people ). The “extremism” you hear will not be in the direction of amnesty and tolerance of illegal immigration.
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