There may be a liar in the group but it isn't me. Contrary to your opinion on what they might have done eventually, some day, perhaps, there was no offer of settlement made prior to repudiating the debt. No compensation made prior to seizing the property. Just vague suggestions that the South might talk about it, but only after Lincoln first recognized the legality of their acts of secession and confederate sovereignty.
Sorry, but the facts prove otherwise. You wrote, 'my position is that the South wanted to walk away from obligations to debt and treaties, take whatever federal property they wanted without compensation of any kind, and leave the remaining states to shoulder the responsibility'
One at a time. You assert that the South 'wanted to walk away from obligations to debt and treaties.' The TRUTH is that they sent ambassadors to Washington to negotiate settlement of all debts.
You assert that the South took 'whatever federal property they wanted without compensation of any kind' The TRUTH is that properties in question were WHOLLY inside non-US territories, erected for the defense of the state, not some capital a hundred or thousand miles away. Being real property they cannot be removed. The properties were SURRENDERED by US forces peacefully. Even then, to prevent deranged idiots from claiming that they stole them, South Carolina and the CSA sent ambassadors to Washington to negotiate settlement of all debts.
And lastly, you assert that the South left 'the remaining states to shoulder the responsibility.' What responsibility? What clause in the Constitution forces them to remain? (please respond with factual, concrete citations, not your usual living constitution made of implicit vague, touchy feely liberal notions) The forts were built with monies from from the federal treasury. By 'walking away' as you claim, the South relinquished claim to their portion of EVERY asset purchased/improved upon by the federal government. The South wanted nothing more than to be separated from demented ilk like you, and like Lincoln, you have the audacity to demand that we remain your friends and be inseparable. I pity you and your family.
Hey, as long as you're up, could you get me a fresh lie? lol
....the South might talk about it, but only after Lincoln first recognized the legality of their acts of secession and confederate sovereignty.
The People didn't need Lincoln to "recognize" anything. You build Lincoln up every chance you get, don't you? Since when did acts of the People become subject to your adaptation of the rules of "Mother May I?"